EP256 - Are Tech Companies Out of Touch with What People Actually Want?
#ppcchat Twitter discussion that runs on Tuesdays at 5pm GMT - Led by Julie Bacchini (@NeptuneMoon)
Q1 Do you think that AI is being over, properly or under hyped by tech platforms right now either generally or relative to PPC?
Q2 What do you think are the best uses of what is currently referred to as “AI” in tech and ad platforms right now or in the future?
Q3 What are your thoughts and/or feelings about VR (virtual reality), AR (augmented reality) and similar technologies being pushed by tech platforms currently?
Q4 Do you think that AR/VR have an important role to play in our future tech interactions? And how, if at all, do you see this impacting PPC?
Q5 What is the most exciting tech advancement relative to PPC that is happening now, and why is it exciting?
Q6 What is the most concerning and/or overhyped tech advancement relative to PPC that is happening now, and why is it concerning?
Thank you for listening!
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Hello, and welcome to this
week's episode of the PPC chat
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Roundup in today's episode.
We have Julie taken us on
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another great topic talking
about our tech companies out of
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touch with what people actually
want.
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So this is in line with talking
about how the likes of Apple
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came out this week with ar and
VR Tech.
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Some new AI R VR tag.
That looks like big wearables
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over your head.
Like looks like massive glasses
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to see some new virtual reality
kind, And of stuff.
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So when we say a rvr with mean
augmented reality, virtual
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reality just in case, those
acronyms have gone over your
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head since the beginning of of
when they started coming out.
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So, yeah, lots of new tech.
Lots of, you know, Buzz from
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them, and obviously, it's going
to seep into media.
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It's going to seep into
marketing and paid media.
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So, yeah, we talked about all
these Tech all this talk of AI
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and, and machine learning on
Automation and that New stuff
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and yeah, what we think about
it, what the hype about it is
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all about what we're worried
about order.
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Our biggest concern from it is,
whether it's actually needed in
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some industries by.
So, yeah, we talked about all of
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that and I hope you enjoyed that
because it's, it was a, it was a
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very interesting discussion.
Very interesting thought
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process, and I'd actually really
encourage people to go on
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Twitter.
Go on you or any of your social
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medias to like, yeah.
Give your opinions about it.
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Well, I Especially on Twitter on
the hashtag PPC, chat.
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Let us know what you think
about, you know, augmented
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reality and virtual reality and
what, that means for the future.
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But yeah, let's get into what
our community thinks about that
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for now.
Alright, hope you enjoy.
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So, yeah, we have Julie again.
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So lowering this lead by taking
us on a great topic about our
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tech companies out of touch with
What people actually want.
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So they've been doing a lot of
talking about Ai and Tech and
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bringing our virtual reality and
a, our products.
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And that's what's Apple this
week.
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So yeah, we have a discussion
about is the hype that big are
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they just ignoring what people
actually really want?
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Yeah.
What's the industry doing about
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it?
We have the likes of Melissa
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McKee.
Dwane, Brown never Hopkins as
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well, you know, joining the
conversation as well as shown
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early Guild me as well.
Joining the conversation was
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very Lively.
Shin In Deed.
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But as usual, before we get to
the questions, this chat is
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intended for PPC, Professionals
of all levels.
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to share, please do we are a
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friendly and supportive
Community, please don't be
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afraid to participate, but
lurkers and of course, the
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listeners of the podcasts are
always welcome to you.
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And that's a tweet from Julie,
which I agree with
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wholeheartedly.
So, yeah, let's get straight
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into the questions.
Julie asks, do you think that
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they are is being over properly?
Lior underhyped by Tech
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platforms right now either
generally or relative to PCS.
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So, yeah, do you think that AI
is being over properly or
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underhyped by tech companies?
Right?
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Now either generally or relative
to PPC?
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Gil kicks us off saying.
Yeah, like Nava has said Google
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is using the term AI instead of
machine learning or in order to
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sterk adoption.
So my tongue in cheek answer
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would be machine, learning is a
really big deal and a lot of PPC
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marketing.
It is aren't paying enough
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attention to it.
Managing goes over hyped for
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what it is now.
Under hype for what it will be,
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that's a very good answer.
We are still very much of the
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early stages so if people it's
very overhype what it actually
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is right now but for what the
possibilities are in the future
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is definitely on the hyped and
there's a lot more that could be
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said about his travels then goes
on to answer saying until AI is
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properly used as a phrase, It's
overhyped risks degrading brand.
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And consumer adoption little
sense, in polluting the waters
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with artificial.
Interpretation of the technology
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Melissa McCarthy also responds
saying overhyped exclamation
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marks.
Sure AI is changing the game but
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it's not killing SEO.
Like some people are claiming or
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taking our jobs or any of the
other hot takes.
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I see on social media.
Michael response saying way, way
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way, way way way way over hyped.
But that hardly distinguishes,
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it from every other new
Technology in the space.
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We think every technology is
going to be the Magic Bullet,
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instead of focusing on marketing
fundamentals, that have worked
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regardless of Technology.
None of our response to question
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once.
And I think in a lot of cases,
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we are conflating machine,
learning and Ai.
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And that's is what Gil was
mentioning earlier on.
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There's a lot of really
interesting updates in PPC.
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I think they are getting labeled
AI to drive adoption.
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I believe that too.
She continues on the question of
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over.
Type / under hype.
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They are some updates that
deserve the excitement audience
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from econ versions, creative
conversational campaign
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creation, lumping them into AI,
instead of celebrating them, as
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what they are, might be doing a
disservice nice balanced view of
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that one.
I think Julie response saying
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overhyped for sure.
I also don't think that what is
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being called a?
I right now even is actual
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artificial intelligence machine
learning is a much more accurate
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term and what apple is?
It for what it's worth.
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Nate Lewis response in hundred
percent accurate.
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AI is just the general term that
covers a wide spectrum of things
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like reactive or limited memory,
where we are today and two
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places, we are scratching the
surface like theory of mind and
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we are not anywhere close to
self-aware a leak.
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Will to respond saying when it
comes to the scary, take all the
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jobs angle.
I think it's overhyped where
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it's appropriately.
Hyped is for how useful of a
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tool it can be in the Strategic
and Creative process when
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creating campaign content or
doing research and yeah, Melissa
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make a response to novel saying
they are constantly being
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conflated in terms of AI and
machine learning.
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And that's basically Julian Ava,
we're saying green brown
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response, saying overhyped.
And what it can do at a high
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quality level of consistent
outputs, it can make content.
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The content is average and based
of average content, it found
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online.
No one wants average.
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Absolutely Chanel, irresponsible
would say in general, The
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height, I think it is another
tool and will probably continue
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to get more useful but I don't
see it.
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Replacing anyone doing good work
anytime soon, Julia Vice goes,
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there is way too much chappie
optimism around AI at the
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moment.
I worry a lot about this
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information, local news and
media, and the overall impact of
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machine learning and AI designed
by one type of person to be used
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by millions and Michael girls, I
1000% agree, especially when I'm
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already starting to see that
distraught.
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That creep into search
especially around medical and
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Healthcare issues.
Yeah and then we have Ashton
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clock as well responding to
question 1st overhyped.
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At this point in time.
It will be an important tool in
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our Arsenal and will impact what
we do or how people search but
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it's not there.
Yet companies seem to throw it
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out.
Almost as a buzzword right now
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example, Google same machine
learning for years now it's AI
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driven.
So yeah similar to what managing
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was saying like literally for
what it is Not that great before
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I could be for the future.
Yeah, watch out.
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Jillian, takes us on to question
2 saying, what do you think are
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the best uses of what is
currently referred to as AI in
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Tech and AD platforms right now
or in the future Guild?
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No response saying ad creative
at scale, whether lme's for text
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or generative for product
images.
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We have already started using
mid-journey and GPT for for
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these users, and although they
still require human editing, its
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massively.
Be useful, Travis response, the
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ability to start with generated,
creative copy, or imagery, saves
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time.
It's like senior copywriter.
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Requesting a 30 headlines from a
junior copywriter, they'd still
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the gems from this swirl and
iterate from there as it stands
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today, that human filter remains
necessary for the high-quality,
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the human filter is definitely
still required for sure.
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And then we have shown Ellie
responding to question 2 sin.
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Assuming you have good input and
enough.
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Volume bidding, a generating
ideas, writer's block for me.
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That's about it.
I'm not letting it choose
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keywords or write ad copy or
choose placements, for the most
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part.
Yeah, I think you need to do
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that quite a bit yourself.
I'd say, placements.
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So, like I'm having chat GPT and
some AI.
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Help me.
I'm actually realize I'm using a
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lot more than I thought.
I would giving me like some
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creative ideas when I have
writer's block, but I'm deciding
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what platforms, whether to be
done.
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LinkedIn or Facebook on Twitter
and watch to do and, you know,
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which products to talk about and
promote and which blogs to
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promote.
But yeah, when I have writer's
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block when I need some quick
first draft of something.
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Yeah, Chachi PT.
And and content AI is helping me
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out with that there.
Never Hopkins response question
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to seeing everyone.
Needs to pay attention to
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audience, build from enhanced
conversions.
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It's a powerful way to build
audiences, especially for
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smaller, folks.
I'm also a big fan of
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conversational campaign.
Asian and Reporting g84 and then
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she continues the creative core
support is a huge disruptor
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given the shortages of design
resources.
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I'll be interested to see how
long these resources remain on
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the legal side of Regulation and
how long the likes of you know
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Google goes I dis is acceptable
this is you know good content
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that I will actually you know
have ranked.
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That's where the interesting
part is for me Julia's will also
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responds to question 2 saying
the most exciting I'm
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possibilities for AI relative to
PPC.
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For me are generating ideas and
iterations of copy for ads.
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Landing pages, Etc, help with
images.
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Like Google talked about a GM L
is also very promising and will
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be very helpful to many
businesses.
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But also make you respond
saying, automating, or partially
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automating tasks.
We are doing manually, example,
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writing ads, and research and
keywords.
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I also love the product image
Builder, they showed at gml
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game-changing Mike.
Then I'm responsible, I'm still
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not sure yet.
I could see a use case where it
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is used to bring together
different types of content and
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to look for similarities between
the different pieces.
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Julia voice response, question
to say and I think there's a lot
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we can do with heavy automation.
It could be creative product,
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launches building, larger scale,
implementations.
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I worry a lot about audience,
insights from very immature
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machines and Mike Ryan response
to question one saying we are
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probably overestimating In the
short term under estimating in
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the long term it's hype but it's
a bit frothy but there is a
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genuine reason why we have the
rights of guilt there going.
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Yeah, frothy is a good word, but
there's some real flavor buried
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in their frothy but label some
underneath like, that, that in
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that nice analogy as well, then
I'll equality as well.
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Response to question to sing.
We have been using chat GPT as
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an assist When developing ad
copy and landing page content,
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it's still hot.
Percent needs human oversight to
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uplevel the content but it has
sped up our process.
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I've also used it to help group
large keyword lists, that's a
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good idea, as well, Ashton clock
response saying, generative
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tool, still strikes me as the
best, use case, quickly spinning
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up creative, or copy can
definitely save time in the
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brainstorming or build phase
that content still needs a human
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touch though.
And AI creative in particular
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makes me a little nervous
because of plagiarism issue.
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Shoes.
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Yeah.
I creative plagiarism issues.
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What I tried to do and I don't
know if anyone's doing this or
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whether this is even a good way
of doing it.
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Is that I'll take a whole
paragraph, copy it and paste it
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into Google search because I'd
like to think like, yeah.
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If a long tail sentences is
being such for you're trying to
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match.
We're trying to match for
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whether that paragraph exist, in
that same way because that is
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what plagiarism is copying
something in its same format in
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the mid the same way.
Zane everything.
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So yeah, thank you.
I have not seen any plagiarism
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or any sign of plagiarism.
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In the content that I've been
giving from Chad GPT, and I
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wonder how many poor people are
doing that.
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So maybe you want to try that
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If you want to check out for
plagiarism, copy and paste a
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paragraph into Google search and
see whether an article is picked
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up.
A similar article is picked up
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like, so I copied and pasted a
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That was given me by chat GPT
and I paste it into Google and
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This article was about you know
scope creep or out of scope work
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when you start doing stuff
there's beyond for Freelancers
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what you're supposed to be doing
and how to charge for that and
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the result was a didn't give me
an article that had the same
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paragraph but it gave me
articles about you know, out of
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group work and I'm you know,
scope creep.
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So that's not bad.
So it recognizes the theme of
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the paragraph but it's clear
that that paragraph wasn't
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copied from another article.
Thank God, Heavens Jimmy bison
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response to question Tuesday
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I think merchant center next is
the most interesting to me, but
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I'm kind of curious about the
Amazon version of this more than
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the one we know about there
being weirdly quiet Julius wants
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doesn't Amazon always fly under
the radar.
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It is wild Timmy.
How they consistently manage not
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be part of these conversations
not because they are not doing
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stuff.
They have just managed to get
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not to get lumped in with other
AD platforms, Julia, right?
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Response to that saying I
sometimes feel like the one
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person screaming about it when
everybody is seriously focused
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in the other direction, you're
gonna respond, say automated.
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Amazon campaigns have worked way
better than manual for several
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years.
Sort of an Open Secret wonder
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what they have running under the
hood.
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So that's automated Amazon
campaigns, televised girls that
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year saying that they have a lot
of buying data to work with also
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video behaviors streaming
behaviors and that's before
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Partnerships.
Lowered their Partnerships with
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no one does.
Like Amazon going brown response
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to question to say that it would
be good for suggesting other
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keywords.
You might want to bid on if
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Google understood context
better.
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Google should focus on
optimization even more if it
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really wants to remove agencies
as a middle people.
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Yeah, Google definitely wants to
remove agencies as middle people
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especially for the small
agencies and then we have my
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crime responding to question 2
sin, Google Knowledge Graph,
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they are audience graph and
their product.
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A file of any features that let
us peek through the IV of the
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garden.
Walls, would love way more
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insights in ads.
And, and see, and my continue
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saying the same can be said of
Google ads though it's gets
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described as Performance
Marketing, demand capture both
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who most users are still very
much browsing or when they land
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and and your website needs to be
ready for that browse Enos.
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He says that way, says browse
Enos even and then yeah, we have
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Julie taken us on to question.
Three saying, what are your
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thoughts and your feelings
about?
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Rie virtual reality or a are
augmented reality and similar
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Technologies being pushed by
Tech platforms.
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Currently cargos, I love my
quest to like I get white
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revolutionary Tech but we are
nowhere near that being widely
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adopted, especially in a
business setting.
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I think these are the first
iterations of something that
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will be more common, a decade
from now.
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And I go, how common can it get
there?
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Will it ever be as cheap as
mobile phones?
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Do you reckon Calgary spices
that saying I think It will if
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we look at previous Tech lines
of intra product, prices versus
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Now personal computers TV,
mobile phones, or falling to
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this, in my opinion, Amazon will
be want to introduce a crazy
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cheap option.
Once everyone else Souls all the
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Innovation issues and I was
like, very interesting, I do
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hope so Gil Gil.
No response, even though I won't
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really be interested in it
personally, it's going to be
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huge.
And apple, really demoed a sick
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product yesterday, I could see,
a are being massive in the
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future.
Once it's affordable for the,
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General consumer just like Max
and iPhone and all the rest
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Rafael goes, although they said
that with the invention of the
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train and the car, I think
there's a biological limit here.
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I get so sick.
After 10 seconds with any VR
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goggle, can't see myself using
that on a regular basis.
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Gill says, so far, I've had the
same experience.
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I think it's because of lag and
resolution problems and I don't
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think Apple would release
something without crisp and
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smooth visuals, but more than
anything I just don't like,
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being shut off from the world.
It even more.
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Mmm and Travis goes.
Yeah, my litmus test for new
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tech is, will this improve human
lives?
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I've seen AR and VR power
surgery, pain management, lnd
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prep, and edu in medicine for
consumables.
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Along a road, eliminating store,
travel or trying in person, may
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save time, awaiting, more
practical uses.
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So eliminating that whole having
to go to the store and traveling
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and go to the store again, and
going back to return stuff.
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I have that Julie respond saying
listen, I fully realized that.
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I An old.
But I could not be less
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interested in this type of doing
things in a virtual space holds
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zero appeal for me and my crying
go.
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See, I need an extra strength
dose of Base reality.
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I don't need app icons strapped
to my effing head.
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I need the antidote to that and
show malygos, I'm with you.
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I find no appeal personally, but
I can totally see others being
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interested.
Although, I'm not sure the
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metaverse has taken off lightly
thought it would and drain goes.
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Yeah, the night of us has died a
little bit, Melissa.
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He says time will tell, I'm not
a big fan on that personally,
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they make me motion sick but the
applications could be very cool
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down the road.
I'm imagining being able to
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virtually try a product before
buying that will be super cool.
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And Julie goes, would you trust
virtually trying it?
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It would offer more info than is
available without being able to
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virtually try something.
But it is still a virtual trying
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and yakko's will say that yes
you'll be interesting to see if
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the Apple ski goggles actually
do so of motion sickness like
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they claim to, I Get queasy with
my quest to even when I work up
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to it and play for a few months
on end, I can only handle
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maximum two hours at a time.
And then Julie mentions about
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all the people that have yeah,
corrective lenses, her distant
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and close-up vision is very bad.
Car goes, not sure if you saw
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but Apple device souls for
corrective lenses with hardware
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and I think the future Tech will
be to solve that with software
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even doubly.
Interesting, solving that with
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software Melissa goes, I can't
even handle some regular non VR
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video games for them.
Makes me sick to my stomach.
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I know I'm really sensitive to
this stuff but you are not
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holding my breath, that they'll
solve that problem anytime soon.
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And Cargoes, my kids do this
rollercoaster game, and I cannot
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do it want to puke every time
and they're just happily
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enjoying it.
Yeah, that's trying to that
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home.
You know, imitating motion
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through VR home, be able to get
to it and then, yeah, Julia
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voice goes.
So many hairs, but here's a
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persists, a rvr will change map
location Discovery behaviors in
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real life, it's very cold and
coming faster than we think
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those stupid headsets are
expensive and only do one thing,
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and the metaverse is a live map,
not a conference room and Rain
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goes.
Yeah, we are about eight years
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into Tech pushing.
This Facebook seems to be given
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up on the metaverse.
As I said, delivery schedule
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will not be led by Zach that
much.
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I'm willing to bet on by the
medical world is going to look
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very different before regular
day-to-day.
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To day life, in my opinion.
I mean, yeah.
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I was like, yeah, I will bring a
continued divided in society and
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opportunity available to
businesses and their expense of
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it is going to be out of reach
for so many the hardware and
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even advertising through it.
So it's not just about yeah the
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hardware their applications of
it but actually advertising and
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ask question 3 Micron goes yeah
there's a massive potential hair
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but the bottleneck is and has
always been the interface until
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we get a our lenses.
It's a niche product and he
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continues there always has been
If you want to learn more read
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about Nintendo's Virtual Boy
from prototype to end product.
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It was a stunning concept
kneecapped by practical
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Necessities.
Many of the same issues, still
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here, 30 years later.
Wow, 30 years later.
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Now, Hopkins goes on with this
is an answer really loved saying
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that I have a slight odd
perspective because of my
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husband's work in VR.
And AR, I truly believe there
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are certain industries and
implementations that deserve
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attention.
So that's like medical learning
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shopping.
They are others.
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That it's all hype.
And then, yeah, she continues
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the essential question to ask is
did adding VR or ar make the
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thing better.
If the answer is, no, I don't
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think that we need to invest in
it, learn skills.
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Not going to lie, a little
jealous life through me, some
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curveballs as a kid.
So I ended up in the military
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but initially I wanted to go
into computer science.
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I always wanted to be a part of
stuff like this.
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That could change people's lives
one day and I agree what novice
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a saying that.
Yeah, he's changing lives in his
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own.
In a way, I'm sure and Lawrence
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response to question 3 as well.
Saying a rvr will be big one day
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think of us running ads for our
clients on buildings inside a
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virtual environment.
Other folks are interacting with
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celebrities and game or
environment promoting products,
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not to mention seeing clothing
homes, Etc.
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And then asked to respond
saying, honestly, pretty
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indifferent a is kind of cool.
Like, when I was shopping for a
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desk chair and could use my
phone camera to see the chair
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in, My office space.
I see more use cases for that
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than I do for VR right now and a
lot of VR stuff is just too
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expensive.
Yeah we are stuff is definitely
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expensive and then we have
Michael responded saying that
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with each one it feels like we
are getting what people want to
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develop and less like something
that is designed to benefit the
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majority of people.
Also I'm really uncomfortable
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with not being able to tell the
difference between the real and
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digital worlds and yeah he leave
I say.
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It's a major problem already.
You have regular people being
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very aggressive in spaces that
are just digital and law
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enforcement and those who can
help asking what's Tick-Tock.
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This can only increase with VR
advancements and Michael your
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goes.
I agree.
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Obviously, I'm not adverse to
all digital technology.
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I just don't want people
including myself to lose a sense
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of the non digital world
totally.
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It's A Touch of grass on purpose
situation out there Julia Vice
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or response and he actually
takes us on to question 4.
449
00:23:52,500 --> 00:23:54,600
Saying since we're already
getting their, do you think that
450
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,300
a rvr has an important role to
play in our future Tech
451
00:23:58,300 --> 00:24:01,500
interaction?
And how if at all, do you see
452
00:24:01,500 --> 00:24:03,400
this impacting?
PPC.
453
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,500
And then cut goes, yeah, call me
and idealist.
454
00:24:06,700 --> 00:24:09,100
I really do.
See a future reality where
455
00:24:09,100 --> 00:24:13,200
everyone, utilizes, some form of
a are somehow in normal everyday
456
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,700
life.
I guess, we'll see what happens.
457
00:24:15,700 --> 00:24:17,700
Lots of innovations that needs
to happen.
458
00:24:17,700 --> 00:24:20,800
Especially around privacy and
safety.
459
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,900
It is D response enough.
Gaming.
460
00:24:22,900 --> 00:24:26,100
AR will likely see a big
adoption in the content
461
00:24:26,100 --> 00:24:29,200
category.
I would love an immersive NBA
462
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,300
game experience without the cost
of Kurth courtside tickets AR
463
00:24:33,300 --> 00:24:37,200
holds potential for see TV and
video ads.
464
00:24:37,500 --> 00:24:40,500
Girl responds saying they are by
the time they are is prevalent
465
00:24:40,500 --> 00:24:43,300
in day-to-day use.
I'll just have to click a button
466
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:48,600
in performance Ultra x2000 Max.
Yeah.
467
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,100
In order to deploy my ads to
gogol's world mean I think you
468
00:24:52,108 --> 00:24:55,200
mean Google's world today.
Travis response question for as
469
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,100
well saying as with anything
adoption pushes the snowball
470
00:24:58,100 --> 00:25:01,700
down the hill headset.
Wearers could see exclusive
471
00:25:01,700 --> 00:25:05,400
sales and story order prompts
for near Mt dish detergent.
472
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:11,500
Containers, but feeder ads when
one flies into view have to stay
473
00:25:11,700 --> 00:25:14,300
at least with the Curve.
Yeah.
474
00:25:14,300 --> 00:25:17,100
That's some very interesting
curve that we get into in this
475
00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:22,300
world of AR and VR and what it
could be for advertising.
476
00:25:22,500 --> 00:25:24,800
Don King in response to question
three sing with the exception of
477
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:29,100
apparel and Automotive, it is
nothing more than pretty smoke
478
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,300
and mirrors.
No, he's not a fan of a rvr from
479
00:25:32,300 --> 00:25:36,200
the sounds of it delivers
responsive ads in our contact
480
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,100
lenses.
Obviously, relevance closer
481
00:25:39,100 --> 00:25:43,300
customer relations extreme,
reach John Keegan, responsive
482
00:25:43,300 --> 00:25:46,400
question, forcing probably, but
not in the next two to three
483
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,700
years for society, might be an
ugly, ADD extension in sem, in
484
00:25:50,700 --> 00:25:54,200
the near future, that will go
The way of G Plus Google.
485
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,600
Wave enhanced campaigns
Overture, click to text
486
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,700
extensions, fairness, Etc.
I thought he said fanos there
487
00:26:01,700 --> 00:26:05,100
for a second, Melissa goes,
solid Overture reference there,
488
00:26:05,100 --> 00:26:07,800
LOL.
And we have never Hopkins going,
489
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,700
yes, on PPC.
I see most of the impact on
490
00:26:10,700 --> 00:26:13,900
shopping travel and other
Industries where being able to
491
00:26:13,900 --> 00:26:16,500
see a virtual version of
something will help with
492
00:26:16,500 --> 00:26:19,800
Commerce.
I could see a our codes being
493
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,300
linked into feeds additional
place.
494
00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:24,400
Minutes and then Michael, as
well.
495
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,400
Say, I have absolutely no idea
what you would use this for
496
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,500
other, than creating some sort
of digital experience, but I
497
00:26:30,500 --> 00:26:33,900
would say you'd be better off
using that budget for non
498
00:26:33,900 --> 00:26:36,900
digital experiences and building
Community.
499
00:26:36,900 --> 00:26:40,300
Well, the whole Community
Building thing is a lot more
500
00:26:40,300 --> 00:26:42,600
people should do that.
Chanel, a response saying, I
501
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,300
might be in the minority by
thing.
502
00:26:44,300 --> 00:26:46,800
VR will be very niche in the
near future.
503
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:51,500
I do think ads will make their
way into those niches, but it
504
00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:53,900
won't be widespread.
Red, I'm thinking mainly video
505
00:26:53,900 --> 00:26:56,700
game type uses Sims next life,
Etc.
506
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:01,300
If you are using for job
training less at Julia's Wells
507
00:27:01,300 --> 00:27:04,200
response to question for, see
I'm not sold on a RV are
508
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,200
becoming part of the majority of
people's daily lives at least,
509
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,800
not at this juncture, but I do
know that when, or if it is
510
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,100
Advil, most certainly have a
place in the AR of VR
511
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,900
environment.
Now, every sponsoring a good
512
00:27:16,900 --> 00:27:20,300
test will be to see how brands
of consumers interact with the
513
00:27:20,300 --> 00:27:23,700
generative such experience.
The more we see adoption and
514
00:27:23,700 --> 00:27:26,700
engagement versus frustration
and swapping to other search
515
00:27:26,700 --> 00:27:31,300
engines, the more data we'll
have for Tech enhancement to
516
00:27:31,300 --> 00:27:33,300
commence, Julie goes great
points.
517
00:27:33,300 --> 00:27:37,200
As I said previously, we have
spent 20 years teaching people
518
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,500
how to search.
It is a big deal to get them, to
519
00:27:40,500 --> 00:27:43,800
do it in a different way.
Remember how Alexa was going to
520
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,900
revolutionize a search and
shopping turns out people
521
00:27:46,900 --> 00:27:50,300
weren't that into it time will
tell search and shopping.
522
00:27:50,300 --> 00:27:52,200
Hmm Lawrence goes what Amazon
is?
523
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,900
Missing is that visual element.
I think people still like to see
524
00:27:55,900 --> 00:27:57,900
something before they make a
purchase.
525
00:27:58,100 --> 00:28:00,800
They are companies making
millions on Virtual in-game
526
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,200
purchases today already.
But then, yeah, you know how
527
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,500
there's Amazon shops.
And then you can just you can
528
00:28:06,500 --> 00:28:10,500
actually go into a shop and buy
things and it's not about buying
529
00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:12,200
offline.
I actually like that physical
530
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,100
experience Julia.
If I said the answer to that was
531
00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:18,300
going to be the small mirror to
which me and it turns out many
532
00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:21,400
people say, no thank you.
Julie goes prophecies that
533
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,200
gigantic.
In the arv, our room, we haven't
534
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,000
even talked about it relative to
kids, which can take me from
535
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,600
calm, professional discussing
martic to She-Hulk pre-teach
536
00:28:32,900 --> 00:28:36,000
quick to give us because it's
rough out there and we really
537
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,200
don't have great answers.
Even the more protective laws
538
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,600
don't actually accomplished much
and the Privacy first experience
539
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,900
tends to just push people to
vpns or abandonment.
540
00:28:47,900 --> 00:28:50,900
Yes, let's not abandon things.
Lawrence as well.
541
00:28:50,900 --> 00:28:52,200
Says yes.
Absolutely.
542
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,700
Simple things like trying on
clothing seeing the inside of
543
00:28:55,700 --> 00:28:59,300
our home for sale driving.
A car before buying having ads
544
00:28:59,300 --> 00:29:02,200
inside of games.
Or if someone is taking virtual
545
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,400
trips to places, even the
clothing, your likeness would
546
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,500
have on.
And he continues, I will say, if
547
00:29:09,500 --> 00:29:12,500
we think that our mental issues
and addictions from social
548
00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:15,100
media, it will be worse.
Oh my God.
549
00:29:15,100 --> 00:29:20,100
Yes, it will be worse with a rvr
when they get really good
550
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,000
escaping, into a different
world.
551
00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:24,200
When Lonely, where you feel like
you don't have friends.
552
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,900
Whenever people might be
bullying, you are God.
553
00:29:26,900 --> 00:29:30,200
And then the bullying down bone
escalate in that space.
554
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,900
So many dangers of this.
Yeah, Jenny goes.
555
00:29:33,900 --> 00:29:35,200
I'm loving this conversation
today.
556
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,200
Oh my God.
Yes.
557
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,400
But before we get to question
five, Jill advice goes to
558
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,600
question for saying.
Okay, here's my real one.
559
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,900
It will not be a surprise road.
Safety and directions. /
560
00:29:45,900 --> 00:29:48,900
findability daily tasks that
make things easier.
561
00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:52,200
Claire are more likely to go
well will fit seamlessly.
562
00:29:52,300 --> 00:29:55,400
Leslie with some of the machines
that we currently have.
563
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,400
And then Julie goes, yeah, to
question five with question five
564
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,200
saying, what is the most
exciting Tech advancement
565
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,000
relative to PPC dies happening
now.
566
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,600
And why is it exciting?
I always like exciting for BBC.
567
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,500
I don't know, but a few people
do have some exciting updates to
568
00:30:10,500 --> 00:30:13,500
share about.
Yeah, Tech advancements relative
569
00:30:13,500 --> 00:30:17,000
to PPC, there's Happening.
Now Gil gonna start us off
570
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,200
saying yeah, my answer is vague
because the tech Fields vague to
571
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,700
us.
But there's a lot going on
572
00:30:21,700 --> 00:30:26,300
behind the Automated matching.
So automated matching audiences
573
00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:30,700
and intent Pursuit, is getting
way better behind the scenes at
574
00:30:30,700 --> 00:30:34,500
Google but it's slowly working.
More effectively for advertisers
575
00:30:34,700 --> 00:30:37,000
Travers.
Go search intent has always been
576
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,600
my biggest critique of Google
specifically either.
577
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:44,200
They can't recognize it as well
as claimed or haven't released
578
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,000
that capability to advertisers
and mass.
579
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,600
If that needle moves Game
Changer and seen flickers
580
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:56,400
waiting, And with bated breath,
Julia voice response to question
581
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,000
five as well saying.
I'd say merchant center next is
582
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:03,800
the big one related to PPC the
overall setup and process of MC
583
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,300
is very cumbersome to businesses
of all sizes.
584
00:31:07,300 --> 00:31:10,400
And this is the solution, make
it seamless and get back to
585
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,300
strategy now, because I was
being a little bit pedantic
586
00:31:13,300 --> 00:31:16,100
because Chile had said, what is
the most exciting Tech
587
00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:20,000
advancement relative to PPC?
There's happening now.
588
00:31:20,300 --> 00:31:23,800
So I was like thinking, wait,
who's much Center next happening
589
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,200
now.
So I asked her that.
590
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,500
Yeah, I thought that was
something coming soon.
591
00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:31,100
So yeah, Geneva's goes, I think
it's rolling out this year.
592
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,100
My Canada accounts don't have it
yet, so I didn't think that's
593
00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:37,200
something that's happening now,
but it's coming out soon.
594
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,500
So buckle up cherubs.
And then we have never Hopkins
595
00:31:41,500 --> 00:31:43,700
responding to question five as
well as in conversational,
596
00:31:43,700 --> 00:31:47,300
enhancements creative campaign,
building and reports, I love how
597
00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:52,200
easy finding and creating things
is now compared to 425.
598
00:31:52,300 --> 00:31:55,700
Two years ago, she liked things.
How hard things are in terms of
599
00:31:55,708 --> 00:31:58,600
creating at ease of creating
things compared to previously.
600
00:31:59,100 --> 00:32:01,900
And so yeah, Michael said that
the most exciting thing I see in
601
00:32:01,900 --> 00:32:04,300
terms of tech is the small but
noticeable.
602
00:32:04,300 --> 00:32:07,700
Push back against all the tech
each Tech development, we were
603
00:32:07,700 --> 00:32:10,100
promised the world and got
nowhere near that.
604
00:32:10,100 --> 00:32:13,200
So now I think people are
starting to see it.
605
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,700
Isn't that Tech drives
performance?
606
00:32:15,700 --> 00:32:19,100
Yeah, I know it's people and
good strategy, learns respond
607
00:32:19,100 --> 00:32:21,000
saying.
Yeah, this would be my answer to
608
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,700
five as well.
I am Assuming this is going to
609
00:32:23,700 --> 00:32:27,200
pave the way for not having to
have feeds and maybe needing
610
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,100
fewer engineering resources to
get stuff done.
611
00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:33,200
And this is where he said that
this will be my answer as in
612
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,400
when Julie of I said, I'd say
merchant center next.
613
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,900
He continues saying especially
if we no longer have to wait for
614
00:32:39,900 --> 00:32:43,800
resources to prioritize.
Projects precisely Julie goes as
615
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,800
a former designer.
I am thrilled to hope that the
616
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,200
quality of images across the web
are about to get a lot better.
617
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,200
The struggle for Quality visual
content still.
618
00:32:52,300 --> 00:32:54,900
Video is so real for so many
businesses.
619
00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:59,600
Maybe ideas won't get stuck at
need image phases.
620
00:32:59,900 --> 00:33:03,400
Melissa McKee has well said, I
would love if a, I could place a
621
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,500
tracking codes on websites for
us.
622
00:33:05,500 --> 00:33:08,400
Such a big pain point for so
many.
623
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,700
Advertisers gildner respond
saying, ga4 is getting pretty
624
00:33:11,700 --> 00:33:14,000
damn close to having the ability
to do.
625
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,800
So, would be massively useful if
they can perfect that.
626
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:22,200
So, yeah, perfecting a, I being
able to place tracking codes on
627
00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:23,700
It's for us.
Oh wow.
628
00:33:23,700 --> 00:33:25,300
Are you are you able to do that
with cheerful?
629
00:33:25,300 --> 00:33:27,600
Interesting?
Green Bronze is very early days,
630
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,500
but in 12 months P, Max will be
the game changer that Google
631
00:33:30,500 --> 00:33:34,800
wants it to be GMC.
Next also, sounds interesting
632
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,600
and manage him goes demand gen
to I think it's going to be a
633
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,100
big.
Hmm, interesting point.
634
00:33:41,500 --> 00:33:43,600
And we have Mike Ryan responding
to question five.
635
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,400
So quite a few exciting things
happening now.
636
00:33:45,700 --> 00:33:49,100
Yeah, my girls her to say, but
almost the only answer can be
637
00:33:49,100 --> 00:33:50,600
whatever Google wants to do
next.
638
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,600
So that's going to be, that's
Fighting thing he continues.
639
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,100
The platform is better
understood and less open to
640
00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:59,000
third parties that it was a few
years ago.
641
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,100
Shorter Horizons cookies.
Cookie less is a chaos Factor
642
00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:06,300
here, though.
And mmm, is quite interesting,
643
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,900
forgotten, What, mmm, stamps or,
and I'll show you how, you know,
644
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:10,699
Tim Johnson response to
question.
645
00:34:10,699 --> 00:34:12,400
Five, six.
I'm intrigued by some of the
646
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,199
creative tools announced in GM
Elsa, Google marketing live.
647
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:20,199
Responsive formats have already
been a move towards simplifying
648
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:24,699
creative, but there are more
Options out there now to make it
649
00:34:24,699 --> 00:34:28,900
easy to build assets for all the
different formats needed still
650
00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:31,600
takes us to our last question of
the day, it's been like a
651
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,800
lengthy were very entertaining
chat and educational chat.
652
00:34:36,100 --> 00:34:39,400
Julie goes, what is the most
concerning and overhyped Tech
653
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,400
advancement relative to PPC that
is happening now?
654
00:34:42,699 --> 00:34:46,000
And why is it concerning girl
gonna respond saying?
655
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,400
I honestly think paid social is
in a weird place and has been
656
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,000
massively overvalued in the past
few years, and That Trend will
657
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,400
likely unfortunately, continue
think snap Tick-Tock and ig's
658
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,200
clones of the above Sean hacking
response.
659
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,400
Him agree companies feel firmer
on what's next rather than
660
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,600
rational ad buying Guild, no
response.
661
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:10,100
And yeah I think that firmware
has fed a lot of AD spend on new
662
00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:14,300
Platforms in the past few years
without clear benefit to either
663
00:35:14,300 --> 00:35:17,400
Brandon or conversions.
These platforms will be the
664
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,200
first to get cut in a downturn
Travis.
665
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,800
Also gives another answer to
question 6 in its Brand or
666
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,100
Advertiser control.
We are a few clicks away from
667
00:35:26,100 --> 00:35:28,700
Google saying no, no hands off.
We got it from here.
668
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,800
That feels dangerous.
We have no real alternative to
669
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,400
Google's domination of the
internet, perhaps Amazon.
670
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,700
Which may be closer to that
reality?
671
00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:39,000
Yes, Amazon come out with your
own search engine, right?
672
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,600
And then Travis continue saying,
I think it's appropriate for
673
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,900
Brands and advertisers to always
have one hand on the steering
674
00:35:44,900 --> 00:35:46,700
wheel.
Otherwise how do your Brand's
675
00:35:46,700 --> 00:35:50,300
promote themselves efficiently
cost controls are vital in
676
00:35:50,300 --> 00:35:55,100
preserving brands if it's not
just those of platforms should
677
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be preserved.
And then we have John Kagan
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responding to question five
saying.
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Once it fully rolls out to
everyone, I am trying to make
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the best of a bad situation by
getting excited about brand
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exclusion for p Max.
We then have Julie advice
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responding to same, most privacy
abuse misinformation,
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disinformation spend management.
If all these seem pretty Broad
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and more social impact than PBC
than you're not running
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campaigns for government.
Right now, Melissa goes.
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Yeah that talk of gml about
managing marketing budgets with
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a.
I got scary real quick.
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00:36:29,900 --> 00:36:34,000
Yeah I can imagine John King
response to question 6 saying I
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mean where do we start chat GPT
pmax bing-a-ling to in targeting
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platforms caring about privacy
GA for every one of these is a
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00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:47,000
dog whistle only to actually do
anything of substance for sem.
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Everything else is an ulcer
waiting to happen.
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Then Julia voice gives another
response to June 16, in terms of
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specific Tech advancements,
where the tech is built with
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PPC, mind homogenization,
everything is about to look, all
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the same.
Michael goes, yeah, Target just
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gave us a really good example of
the dangers of homogenization.
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People in the South are not
going to react the same way
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00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,700
people in New England to a pride
month display because people are
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distinct and we need to treat
them that way.
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Yeah.
And universities, I'm not sure.
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00:37:20,100 --> 00:37:22,100
Pride Celebration is exactly
what I meant queer.
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People in the South deserve
support and inclusion just as
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much as everyone and will likely
appreciate it in a way that
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others weren't.
So different people.
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See things in different ways.
I think that's very much a fact
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of life.
Julie also responds to
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questions. 16, I have two
elements of concern privacy with
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all the VR and AR we haven't
even talked about how your
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00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:45,200
privacy can be impacted by
others use of that Tech
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00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,700
potentially to intellectual
property.
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Radically changing from how we
currently know it manually,
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00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,700
right?
This goes anyone in law school
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00:37:53,700 --> 00:37:55,400
right now.
Specialize in IP.
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You're about to have work for
life.
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Ain't that the truth?
Sean.
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Ellie response to question 6.
Same most concerning for me, are
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the smart non-expert accounts,
that Google and Bing try to get
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small Biz to set up.
The machine learning, isn't
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00:38:11,700 --> 00:38:14,800
there yet to be able to set up
an account and let it run.
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But platforms are pushing that
option and actually cost him
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00:38:18,300 --> 00:38:23,200
smbs money because of the waste
Before we close.
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All, we got some late answers to
question 6.
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Lawrence goes the most
concerning thing as a marketer
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00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,700
will be legal aspects.
All over of all of these
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00:38:30,700 --> 00:38:34,000
advancements, legal issues are
going to be challenged quickly.
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00:38:34,300 --> 00:38:38,300
It will be a brand new frontier
and 70 plus year old politicians
728
00:38:38,500 --> 00:38:42,800
will in many cases have no idea
what is even being talked about.
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00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,800
But yeah, they will be the one
interviewing people would just
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00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,600
seems ridiculous.
I don't that note.
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I'm going to bring us this chat
to an end.
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00:38:51,700 --> 00:38:55,300
There was so many great tweets,
but as I keep reminding you,
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it's right there in the title of
this podcast.
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00:38:58,300 --> 00:39:01,100
This is Round Up.
This is a summary, this is not
735
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,400
giving you every single tidbit
or every single tweet that was
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00:39:05,700 --> 00:39:07,100
written.
Although this is interesting
737
00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:08,900
from Michael.
He says, any technology that
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00:39:08,900 --> 00:39:12,900
promises, it is going to change
everything to is both concerning
739
00:39:12,900 --> 00:39:16,300
an overhyped when they make
sweeping statements like that.
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00:39:16,500 --> 00:39:19,800
It's over selling combined with
a clear lack of understanding.
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00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,900
It seems of how marketing,
especially Within corporations
742
00:39:22,900 --> 00:39:25,300
work.
Not one-size-fits-all.
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00:39:25,300 --> 00:39:30,000
Not one thing can change
everything like not one thing
744
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,100
can change all of people's jobs
anyway hope you've taken some
745
00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:36,000
great takeaways.
Hope you found that chat.
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00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,300
Very interesting and yeah if you
want to continue this chat with
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00:39:39,300 --> 00:39:43,300
Judy join us on Thursday at 12
p.m. eastern Time, 5 p.m.
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00:39:43,300 --> 00:39:47,600
GMT where she'll be continuing
this chat on Twitter spaces if
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00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,900
you have any feedback or any
corrections about anything,
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00:39:50,900 --> 00:39:54,700
please get in touch with.
Me on, at the marketing, a new,
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00:39:54,700 --> 00:39:56,500
or on LinkedIn.
Just find my name there.
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00:39:56,500 --> 00:40:00,600
We also have a PPC chat Roundup
podcast group that you can join,
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00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,000
will be great for long-standing.
A brand new listeners to give
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00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:08,700
the podcast a review or rating.
Just go to link tree.com /p PC
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00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:12,000
chat on the score.
Round up also remember PPC live,
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00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,900
UK is celebrating his first year
anniversary.
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00:40:13,900 --> 00:40:16,800
We've got four speakers is going
to be a big celebration.
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00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,500
There's going to be cake.
There's going to be food is
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00:40:18,500 --> 00:40:20,300
going to be drinks, that's gonna
be amazing talks.
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00:40:20,700 --> 00:40:23,800
And there's going to be an Unity
to share your opinion about
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00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,700
what's going on in the industry.
Especially so yeah, join us for
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that.
Just go to PC live UK.com for
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00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,800
tickets for that.
Finally, remember for your
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campaigns and businesses to
Glide smoothly.
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There's a lot of hard work
needed beneath the surface, so
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keep your swans kicking by and
speak to you next week.