April 19, 2023
EP250 - AI - Helpful or Headache in PPC
#ppcchat Twitter discussion that runs on Tuesdays at 5pm GMT - Led by Julie Bacchini (@NeptuneMoon)
Q1 How do you define AI when it comes to PPC?
Q2 What aspects of AI do you think are helpful for PPC?
Q3 What aspects of AI do you think are a headache or difficult for PPC?
Q4 What do you think is the most exciting and/or potentially the most useful aspect of AI for PPC?
Q5 What do you think is the most frustrating, troublesome or negative aspect of AI for PPC?
Q6 What is on your AI wish list for PPC?
Thank you for listening!
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Hello, and welcome to this
week's episode of the PPC chat
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Roundup in today's episode.
We have the awesome Julie bikini
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taking us on a topic of AI
helpful or headache in PPC.
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Now, I feel that this was not
quite pre-planned because over
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the weekend, search engine land
released an article saying that
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Google is now planning a new
search engine while working on
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new search features under the
project.
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Maggie's that M AG.
I so that Means like they are in
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the process of building an all
new search engine powered by its
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new AI technology.
And yeah, the way I actually
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heard about it was Julia
herself, writing a reaction
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articles.
It wasn't best pleased by this
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news.
Because yeah.
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And I even put a poll about it
today.
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Talking about is Google really
haven't their priorities, right?
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Is this where they really should
be focusing their resources on
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if you want to, you know, get
involved in that poll, please
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like let us know.
Let's just follow this, go on
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LinkedIn.
Look for the marketing, a new or
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an you addict bowl, and you will
find that pole.
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But yeah, I just found it
interesting that.
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Yeah, Google is coming out with
this.
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There's going to be an AI
powered search engine in a way,
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you know you just have to be
ready for change.
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It's one of those things that we
say many a time but like
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sometimes it's just a bit
worrisome as to whether they
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actually creating things to be
helpful or just create a
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headache for most advertisers
advertisers And paid search.
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And will they actually listened
to advertisers and paid search
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when they're releasing this,
when they're building it when
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they're creating it?
So that what they do create is
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something that can be effective
for us.
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Anyway, we chat about what we
think about it.
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What we think about this update
and yeah, well, we think about
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Ai and the future of it.
In PPC, hope you enjoy.
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So, yeah, we have Julie taken us
on a very light timely topic
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about not just the latest on
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But about how the future of paid
search how its evolving, we're
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really in the states of where
best practices are going to be
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really very much evolving and
changing over time.
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So I really hope we are keeping
up with that before we get into
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the questions and answers, I'm
going to get right into it
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today.
But I really like to mention
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Welcome to this episode.
Thank you for joining us today.
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So let's get on to question one
at so Julie goes yeah let's get
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to it.
I'm really curious went what
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everybody where everyone's
thinking is on today's topic?
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She asks, how do you define a i
when it comes to peace.
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See Travis starts off saying the
distinction between Ai and
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machine learning is important,
AI autonomous human.
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Mimicking decision making
machine learning performing,
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specific tasks with accurate
results.
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Based on inputs learning data
and pattern recognition to data.
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Google ads has not fully rolled
out a.
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I Gilda response.
A machine learning is now
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ubiquitous throughout Google ads
and analytics LL Em's,
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generating possible ad copy,
Matching bidding and lately,
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even the whole cookie-less
browser tracking models, at play
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Robert, Brady answers this.
And I think this was the perfect
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answer and I just was like this
will be my answer.
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Really, for this question
Herbert.
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Brady goes, I don't think we
have true AI yet in PPC.
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I believe we have machine
learning in lots of places, like
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bidding, keyword, matching
asset, creation, Etc, and many
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confuse that with a i Amanda
Folly goes 100% And I pretty
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much yeah.
Yeah, as I said, agree with
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that.
I was like there is probably
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some AI driving.
The machine learning fact.
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It's a, I driving the machine
learning that we are using, but
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we aren't using AI yet.
In my opinion, Julie goes.
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Yeah, echoing, Robert Brady as
well.
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A lot of things are being called
a, I right now and they are
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rapidly getting integrated into
platforms and tools.
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I don't think the level of the
tech is actually all that
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sophisticated at this time
either, despite all the hype
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stating otherwise Julia vices
while say, It's not actually a,
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I, at this point more like
strong machine learning.
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I said, creation optimization
search or interest matching.
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Basically, if your e-comm, it's
a very powerful work back from
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bottom of funnel to top.
Cool, but not what Asimov was
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thinking of whose Azimuth feel
like he's one of like the big
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thinkers of marketing, right?
And so Julie takes us on to
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question 2 saying, what aspect
of a I do think are helpful for
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PPC, starting off.
We have Travis as well saying so
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far I've leveraged chat DPT for
the following key word.
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Discovery keyword grouping into
themes at copy variations,
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directionally sqrl events
ranking GMC, title description,
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and augmenting plus description,
augmenting even custom audience,
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segments tearing landing page
content, ideation missile,
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respond saying, I enjoyed our
chat.
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Gbt supports me to write ads and
extensions when I'm trying to
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wear things differently.
I get some Buzz words and
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sometimes flip a sentence
around, which really helps.
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I definitely wouldn't say it can
write it yet.
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Mmm, Gill gonna respond saying
as digital marketers with shot
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ourselves in the foot, over the
past couple of decades, by over
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emphasis in trackability, I'm
pretty sure we'd be served.
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Well by taking a more heuristic
approach to data and there's a
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possibility that a, I could help
us make better decisions.
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Yeah, it could make help us make
Beth better decisions but Will
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it Ashton Clark response,
question once.
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And for starters, I think of a
is different from machine
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learning.
Ml is used by the platform
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algorithms to help serve ads
better where us a I can be used
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as a complementary tool to make
our jobs easier like drafting ad
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copy or automating a manual
process.
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I don't know, I wouldn't
describe it as that
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passionately.
Julie response question to say
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and I think the most helpful AI
capabilities at the moment are
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in idea generation and iteration
for keywords or ad copy,
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particularly it's interesting to
play around.
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With four competitors, to to see
how content differs do you have
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ice responds?
And gives two answers is, it
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could be great for new search
interest, Behavior, mapping.
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And of course, the forever,
elusive dream.
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Cross-channel attribution a girl
can dream, right?
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It's continuous while I'm
daydreaming.
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Imagine mapping out a new
feature based on reviews and
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correlating it with analytics
Behavior.
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Lord, imagine that.
That would be perfect Julie
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goes, I think about capabilities
like you're describing.
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Scribing and then I remember all
the retailers, who collect
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loyalty card data and do exactly
squat with it and come back down
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to reality, right?
And you never I says.
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Yeah, right.
But what if there was an
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affordable machine, a girl can
dream.
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She goes it also it can help
keep our eyes on the prize to I
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recall a load of work, put into
an app with a feature, I cared
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about and believed in our
audience, did not care humbling,
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but an important check on the
marketing.
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Sometimes we think it's the most
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important thing but then when we
actually put it to Market, it
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may not be Lauren's Chase
response question one saying,
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agree with what others have
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We don't really have a i
marketing yet.
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We just have machine learning
which is very different.
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Robert, Brady goes to question
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Saying, I really like how the
generative language models can
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shift their voice with a simple
prompt.
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That can give you more breadth
of ideas and tones Lawrence,
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chase down response to question
to say.
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And I think I think is where it
can get exciting, finding new
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markets ideas and anything we
have not thought of being able
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to look at data and find Trends
or opportunities.
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We may miss ideas for everything
from copy video, imagery
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excetera and you lavage response
to a question to what, more in a
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response to gild Nowhere.
She says gilgul, that makes a
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great point and reminds me fully
automated testing.
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Oh God, please enable this
immediately and still, let me
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see the findings of Solutely.
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testing.
There's actually reliable love
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that doing doing a/b testing and
all that kind of tests and see
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what works and trying to figure
out at what point in time that
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you've got significant data,
statistically significant data
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can be time.
Consuming Miller response to
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question 3.
Oh actually we go to question 3
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even I'm not sure if I've given
the question.
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First of all, Julie asked what
aspect of a I do you think are a
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headache or difficult for PPC
middle Response.
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challenge is that people think
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it's groundbreaking and going to
change everything.
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Make us job, less excetera were
a long way off that people
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sharing findings within our
community are great and really
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supports us all to learn and
grow.
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Julie goes on till it knows the
difference reliably between
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chocolate milk and milk
chocolate.
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I am not terribly worried.
Yeah, that was the first first
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things that I mentioned that we
mentioned about when close
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variance when exact match was no
longer exact and close variants
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with Was brought in because
basically chocolate milk and
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milk chocolate will be seen as
the same thing.
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Anyway, we were all worried
about that middle then response
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to what to do.
Lee said says I mean we can go
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into Google's machine learning
for broad match but I don't have
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the brain capacity to even
mention that without getting
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rage Lord, let's leave that
alone.
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Then, Travis response to
question 3 seeing a common theme
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is, is this going to take my
job?
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The short answer is not yet.
So far those tools save time and
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mental bandwidth.
If understood.
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The headache is learning how to
get them to work.
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Well for you, that's a unique
skill, set plus learning curve
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for all, Gilman response to
question 3.
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Saying it's not perfect, yet, in
many cases generated content
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isn't something that's just plug
and play, it needs to be
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shepherded.
John Keegan joins us response to
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question one saying, as of right
now of fun buzzword to get
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everyone excited about
something.
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That's probably going to cause
you more of a headache than
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anything else in the question to
question, two, who responds
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saying that Used for suggestions
for ad copy or keywords and
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certain bit strategies, Julia,
response to question 3.
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Saying, the way it's applied,
I'm not interested in a, take
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your word for it approached,
show me the stuff.
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Be on the team with me deploy
this powerful tool in a cooler
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way.
Be cool, I guess.
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Is the ask be called.
Lawrence Chase response to
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question, 3 saying honestly
whoever programs the AI is going
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to have an influence on what or
how it does, what it does.
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Absolutely this is both good and
bad companies have biases and
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This may sway what results are
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what is best for the Searcher
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This is such a fair point
because people who are very
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imperfect people that might
have, you know, bias has two
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different, you know, skin
colors, to different
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sexualities, two different
genders, two different things
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you have got to be careful about
how you show those biases and
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how you, you know, assume tone
of voice is in.
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Of a man or woman or non-binary
person, you know, we've got to
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be really careful.
Ashton cock response to question
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to say and I think that
generative a tie tools will
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continue to be the most useful
for PPC.
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Especially for time-consuming
tasks like ad copy, keyword
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audience, research and
competitor analysis.
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Other helpful use cases, maybe
spreadsheet or data cleanups and
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automating internal processes.
Julia herself response.
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Question 3, saying does hearing
about it, Breathlessly reported
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Ad nauseam count more seriously
hearing about it being deployed
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after the fact is a pain like
Google is doing right now with
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all their it would totally doing
it.
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I to announcement every other
year.
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It's almost like everybody else
is doing a and they're like, oh
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yeah, don't worry.
We're still doing it as well.
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And universe girls, you had the
comes on this Dogpile are an
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absolute mess.
Julie goes, I did write a very
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salty blog post, so if you go to
Neptune Moon dotnet you'll find
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that post about Her opinion as
to how they announce this Robert
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Brady their response to question
3 saying the biggest difficulty
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will be managing expectations.
People believe AI is a magic
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wand it can do anything and do
it better than people.
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The reality is much more mundane
and that leads to disappointment
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and the rubber Brady also agrees
with Lawrence's points as I did,
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where Lawrence had said honestly
whoever programs the AI is going
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to have an influence on water or
how it does what it does.
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And Robert goes great Point
here.
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If you can't see See, I would
how its put together or at least
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see, more of How It's coming to
the results.
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Then there is a lot of potential
for manipulation whether
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intentional or not.
So it might be just as I say
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unconscious bias.
But yeah, those would need to be
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dealt with John Kagan response
to question, 3 saying the
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misconception that one a I can
replace humans unassisted and to
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that AI isn't just a giant
headache.
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So yeah, giant headache is from
from Taken, I think lock
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response to question.
Three.
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Same one, biases in the data
that the AI is trained with to
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plagiarism and copyright issues.
Especially for a i generated
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creative three, combating
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for blander and less interesting
content for second, I forgot
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what the word blander meant.
So Bland as and more boring,
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Julie then goes on to question
for saying, what do you think is
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most exciting and or potentially
the most useful aspect of a AI
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for PPC.
So, so what do you think, is
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most exciting and or potentially
the most useful aspect of AI for
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PPC missile response saying, I'm
a freelancer.
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So I rarely have people to
bounce ideas off.
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I use chat GPT to do that, and
obviously, I'm loving the add
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ideas support from it to
overall, a great little helper
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doesn't beat as PPC brain at
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Travis response thing for me the
prospect of automating the
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mundane or time-consuming task.
It's quite exciting this holds
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up the potential for better
deeper thinking more time in my
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day or shorter working days.
All Stellar mental health boost.
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Absolutely.
I agree.
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So even if it's literally less
working time and spending my
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brain doing thinking of more fun
intrapreneurial ideas, I love
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that girl gonna respond saying
by far LMS.
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We bought a premium seat of chat
GPT for the agency and it's been
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really useful.
And even though I was very
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disappointed in bards release.
It turns out bad was
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intentionally, pretty limited.
I have hopes that they will
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release a newer version soon.
So they released something, but
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it wasn't that very much
competitive.
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Hmm, interesting.
Julia herself response to
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question, 14, the platform can
get AI.
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Or machine learning to marry up
interests, and queries and
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produce High converting ad copy.
I'd be quite excited about that,
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but it would also do it for
anyone who asks, for the danger
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of all ads being the same way.
Be real.
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Yep.
Jellyfish respondents said
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automated testing automated data
Vis in reporting major potential
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for automated landing page
creation, audience curation and
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you know, a partridge in a pear
tree, love Julia.
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She just comes out with some
phrases that you like they're
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like, wait why?
Ah, and go response to that same
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partridge in a pear.
Tree must be one of those
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bizarrely Canadian terms like
Weevil in my syrup.
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No, we use that phrase in the UK
as well, but it's more during
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Christmas time.
Yeah, exactly.
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Deliver ice goes yet an old
Christmas Carol.
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I know if it's not shopping
related, you Americans.
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Can't understand where it's got
a good Rhythm.
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Also and Go-Go's we use the same
tune but our lyrics changed to
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pickups in a liquor store locked
pick up in a liquor store lot.
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Like let's just move on from
that.
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I think that Cai iced in
response to a question.
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Same kind of mentioned this in a
two as well, but I think that
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generative AI tools.
Like, chat GPT will continue to
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get more powerful and produce
more useful outputs.
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This will help speed up more,
tedious tasks, so that we can
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focus more on strategy analysis,
Etc, John Kagan response to
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question for saying one that can
pull useful insights after
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watching my most frequent
reports and then Julie takes us
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on to question five asking, what
do you think is the most
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frustrating Troublesome or
negative aspect?
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Of AI for PPC.
So Travis respond saying there
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is an inherent risk of human
operators, taking lazy and
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brackets shortcuts.
The tools are no substitute for
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great strategy, quality
copywriting or data analysis
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insights.
That's actually a i I'd hate to
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see a door side content quality
degrade over time from Tool
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abuse.
That is such a fair point and
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shaba the ioc's agreed, I think
we'll see.
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Morris Q reaction across all
media from art to PC copy.
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Where made or written by hand is
a badge of honor.
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Absolutely.
Those kind of things of like,
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you know, I did this as my human
hand.
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This was not a, I supported with
one of those badge of honor like
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comments.
I agree with that Gilda response
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to question fights, and
ultimately machine learning uses
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data that's been generated by
real people, quality output
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requires quality input.
So the whole world can't totally
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shift to a He still needs to be
some human creativity.
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Agree.
And Julia voice response to
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question five saying it's a tie,
the comes the Chicken Little,
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the it will take over the P.
Max the trust, the machine, the
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Panic.
The immediate trust the boat
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battle, the antitrust, the mess
Lord.
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There's there's a lot to go
through here.
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There again, let me repeat what
she said.
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It's a tie, the cons, the
Chicken Little, the, it will
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take over the Pima.
The trust the machine, the
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Panic.
The immediate trust the bot
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battle.
The antitrust the mess.
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So yes, a lot to think about
them and then see if you can
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think that the tie between all
of those Julie respond saying
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I'm concerned about too much.
Only geniusness, if everyone is
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using AI for keyword ad, copy
and landing page ideas.
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Although it also creates space
for an advantage.
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For those who don't just use the
AI for all that training data
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bias is a real issue.
Issue to Travis goes.
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Great point about training days,
biases.
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That's not addressed nearly
often enough.
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There's a risk of diminishing
marginal return on total utility
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funny enough because of human
involvement, right?
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And Julie continue saying that.
Yeah.
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And then there's this, it has
the potential to really flatten
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research right now.
You have to either use a tool of
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some kind or manually, compile
your research.
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If AI is doing it all for you,
everyone will have the same.
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Again room to be better than a.
I do you live.
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I said this exact thing is going
to push propriety tools forward.
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Get ready for the political
chatter about polling quality to
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directly affect our industry and
Ashton clock response to
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question.
Five saying this isn't
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necessarily specific to PC by
tend to agree with the recent
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letters and statements about
slowing down AI production in
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general, this Tech is clearly
very powerful but can also be
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extremely I'm Philippa
development moves too quickly
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and we aren't careful and really
takes us on to the last question
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of the day and does another one
of those?
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Yeah, let's look include the
crystal ball.
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If we were to wish for anything.
And let's, let's for example,
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you know, and dream and wish
that actually our answers are
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queries, shall be listen to what
is on your AI wish list for PPC.
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He asks and trap is goes,
there's plenty of room for
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machine learning to address
poor.
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In search query, data example,
if my learning data is negative
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keyword, lists learn from that
address pluralization infer and
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avoid similar queries
advertisers provide powerful
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signals to Google to Casey stump
response saying, so all of the
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campaign building on its own
with just instructions from me,
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I still want to give its
settings and guidelines but if I
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didn't have to spend time
dealing with ADD managers
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anymore, I wouldn't be sad.
Yeah do you do Humane like
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Google ad managers because I
Agree.
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Julie advice gear comes in with
her wish list saying for now
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testing data Vis, and
high-volume AD creation, if it
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can understand specific
parameters, it's a tool
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ultimately probably more on my
list as things developed but
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that's on the short term for me.
We can decide if or how to
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deploy, then she continues.
Oh you know what find and manage
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and Miss information, that would
actually be great.
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Thank you.
And yeah, literally mr.
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Goes.
Yeah.
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Oh my God.
Yes.
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To use to this.
So yeah.
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Misinformation we need to start
with that.
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Then, Julia's World answers
question 16 where to start I
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would love a report Creator
where I told it what I wanted
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and it put all the data together
without me having to select
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every data point AI alerts.
Based on what I tell the
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platform is important to me
better recommendations, she
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continues, more advanced
semantic, understanding of
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words, how about some Basics?
Like not showing ads in
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untargeted Geographies
understanding query words that
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conflict with Geo targeting
settings and not showing the ADD
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no more disapprovals for single
words, words, cuz trademarks
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yeah, some some of them are
totally ridiculous and it takes
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a long time to.
Yeah, get over that trademark
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and to be showing for your ad
again, she continues suggesting
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possible negative keywords based
on the ones already added to the
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campaign or account highlighting
suggested placement, exclusions
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based on previously.
Excluded placements ad copy
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suggestions based on the ads
from advertisers in auction,
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insights as you continues, I
just can't stop.
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Now that I've started how about
a setting to Auto compared
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against a timeframe and
highlighting, what's changed and
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a why from the a I like cpcs are
up for this time because
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Advertiser X is spending a
buttload on that term now.
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So, yeah, more in-depth insight
as to why your performance or
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different.
Efficiency metrics has gone awry
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Angela versus well gives another
wish saying.
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I don't hate the idea of machine
learning or simple.
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AI media planning.
Hey plan a pal emphasize local
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media in my next by or tell me
what mood people are in on the
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various platforms.
I use so unfortunately, because
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I was actually in between trying
to multitask and when halfway
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through the chat, I have a
weekly internal meeting work
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meeting.
So I was trying to catch up with
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some of the Questions.
And I did want to answer
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question 5 and I said, I think
for me, it's the whole worry
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that it will take away their
jobs.
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So, literally in terms of what
you think is the most
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frustrating thing Troublesome,
one negative aspect of AI.
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So the whole it's going to take
away all our jobs AI, still
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needs a lot of guidance and it
only as good as the people
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use it before.
It's ready, they'll be for the
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people creating it have actually
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thorough job.
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Hello, and welcome to this
week's episode of the PPC chat
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Roundup in today's episode.
We have the awesome Julie bikini
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taking us on a topic of AI
helpful or headache in PPC.
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Now, I feel that this was not
quite pre-planned because over
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the weekend, search engine land
released an article saying that
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Google is now planning a new
search engine while working on
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new search features under the
project.
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Maggie's that M AG.
I so that Means like they are in
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the process of building an all
new search engine powered by its
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new AI technology.
And yeah, the way I actually
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heard about it was Julia
herself, writing a reaction
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articles.
It wasn't best pleased by this
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news.
Because yeah.
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And I even put a poll about it
today.
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Talking about is Google really
haven't their priorities, right?
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Is this where they really should
be focusing their resources on
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if you want to, you know, get
involved in that poll, please
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like let us know.
Let's just follow this, go on
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LinkedIn.
Look for the marketing, a new or
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an you addict bowl, and you will
find that pole.
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But yeah, I just found it
interesting that.
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Yeah, Google is coming out with
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There's going to be an AI
powered search engine in a way,
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you know you just have to be
ready for change.
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It's one of those things that we
say many a time but like
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sometimes it's just a bit
worrisome as to whether they
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actually creating things to be
helpful or just create a
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headache for most advertisers
advertisers And paid search.
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And will they actually listened
to advertisers and paid search
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when they're releasing this,
when they're building it when
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they're creating it?
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something that can be effective
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What we think about this update
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Ai and the future of it.
In PPC, hope you enjoy.
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So let's get on to question one
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I'm really curious went what
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everybody where everyone's
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She asks, how do you define a i
when it comes to peace.
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See Travis starts off saying the
distinction between Ai and
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machine learning is important,
AI autonomous human.
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Mimicking decision making
machine learning performing,
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specific tasks with accurate
results.
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Based on inputs learning data
and pattern recognition to data.
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Google ads has not fully rolled
out a.
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I Gilda response.
A machine learning is now
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ubiquitous throughout Google ads
and analytics LL Em's,
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generating possible ad copy,
Matching bidding and lately,
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even the whole cookie-less
browser tracking models, at play
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Robert, Brady answers this.
And I think this was the perfect
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answer and I just was like this
will be my answer.
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Really, for this question
Herbert.
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Brady goes, I don't think we
have true AI yet in PPC.
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I believe we have machine
learning in lots of places, like
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bidding, keyword, matching
asset, creation, Etc, and many
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confuse that with a i Amanda
Folly goes 100% And I pretty
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much yeah.
Yeah, as I said, agree with
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that.
I was like there is probably
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some AI driving.
The machine learning fact.
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It's a, I driving the machine
learning that we are using, but
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we aren't using AI yet.
In my opinion, Julie goes.
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Yeah, echoing, Robert Brady as
well.
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A lot of things are being called
a, I right now and they are
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rapidly getting integrated into
platforms and tools.
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I don't think the level of the
tech is actually all that
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sophisticated at this time
either, despite all the hype
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stating otherwise Julia vices
while say, It's not actually a,
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I, at this point more like
strong machine learning.
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I said, creation optimization
search or interest matching.
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Basically, if your e-comm, it's
a very powerful work back from
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bottom of funnel to top.
Cool, but not what Asimov was
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thinking of whose Azimuth feel
like he's one of like the big
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thinkers of marketing, right?
And so Julie takes us on to
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question 2 saying, what aspect
of a I do think are helpful for
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PPC, starting off.
We have Travis as well saying so
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far I've leveraged chat DPT for
the following key word.
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Discovery keyword grouping into
themes at copy variations,
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directionally sqrl events
ranking GMC, title description,
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and augmenting plus description,
augmenting even custom audience,
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segments tearing landing page
content, ideation missile,
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respond saying, I enjoyed our
chat.
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Gbt supports me to write ads and
extensions when I'm trying to
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wear things differently.
I get some Buzz words and
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sometimes flip a sentence
around, which really helps.
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I definitely wouldn't say it can
write it yet.
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Mmm, Gill gonna respond saying
as digital marketers with shot
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ourselves in the foot, over the
past couple of decades, by over
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emphasis in trackability, I'm
pretty sure we'd be served.
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Well by taking a more heuristic
approach to data and there's a
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possibility that a, I could help
us make better decisions.
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Yeah, it could make help us make
Beth better decisions but Will
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it Ashton Clark response,
question once.
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And for starters, I think of a
is different from machine
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learning.
Ml is used by the platform
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algorithms to help serve ads
better where us a I can be used
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as a complementary tool to make
our jobs easier like drafting ad
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copy or automating a manual
process.
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I don't know, I wouldn't
describe it as that
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passionately.
Julie response question to say
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and I think the most helpful AI
capabilities at the moment are
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in idea generation and iteration
for keywords or ad copy,
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particularly it's interesting to
play around.
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With four competitors, to to see
how content differs do you have
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ice responds?
And gives two answers is, it
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could be great for new search
interest, Behavior, mapping.
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And of course, the forever,
elusive dream.
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Cross-channel attribution a girl
can dream, right?
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It's continuous while I'm
daydreaming.
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Imagine mapping out a new
feature based on reviews and
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correlating it with analytics
Behavior.
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Lord, imagine that.
That would be perfect Julie
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goes, I think about capabilities
like you're describing.
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Scribing and then I remember all
the retailers, who collect
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loyalty card data and do exactly
squat with it and come back down
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to reality, right?
And you never I says.
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Yeah, right.
But what if there was an
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affordable machine, a girl can
dream.
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She goes it also it can help
keep our eyes on the prize to I
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recall a load of work, put into
an app with a feature, I cared
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about and believed in our
audience, did not care humbling,
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but an important check on the
marketing.
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Yeah.
Sometimes we think it's the most
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important thing but then when we
actually put it to Market, it
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may not be Lauren's Chase
response question one saying,
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agree with what others have
said.
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We don't really have a i
marketing yet.
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We just have machine learning
which is very different.
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Robert, Brady goes to question
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Saying, I really like how the
generative language models can
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shift their voice with a simple
prompt.
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That can give you more breadth
of ideas and tones Lawrence,
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chase down response to question
to say.
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And I think I think is where it
can get exciting, finding new
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markets ideas and anything we
have not thought of being able
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to look at data and find Trends
or opportunities.
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We may miss ideas for everything
from copy video, imagery
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excetera and you lavage response
to a question to what, more in a
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response to gild Nowhere.
She says gilgul, that makes a
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great point and reminds me fully
automated testing.
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Oh God, please enable this
immediately and still, let me
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see the findings of Solutely.
Yeah, if they can be automated
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testing.
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First of all, Julie asked what
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headache or difficult for PPC
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it's groundbreaking and going to
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Make us job, less excetera were
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sharing findings within our
community are great and really
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supports us all to learn and
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Julie goes on till it knows the
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chocolate milk and milk
chocolate.
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I am not terribly worried.
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things that I mentioned that we
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variance when exact match was no
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with Was brought in because
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milk chocolate will be seen as
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about that middle then response
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to what to do.
Lee said says I mean we can go
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into Google's machine learning
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the brain capacity to even
mention that without getting
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rage Lord, let's leave that
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Then, Travis response to
question 3 seeing a common theme
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is, is this going to take my
job?
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The short answer is not yet.
So far those tools save time and
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mental bandwidth.
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The headache is learning how to
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Well for you, that's a unique
skill, set plus learning curve
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for all, Gilman response to
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Saying it's not perfect, yet, in
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isn't something that's just plug
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shepherded.
John Keegan joins us response to
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question one saying, as of right
now of fun buzzword to get
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everyone excited about
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That's probably going to cause
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anything else in the question to
question, two, who responds
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saying that Used for suggestions
for ad copy or keywords and
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certain bit strategies, Julia,
response to question 3.
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Saying, the way it's applied,
I'm not interested in a, take
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your word for it approached,
show me the stuff.
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Be on the team with me deploy
this powerful tool in a cooler
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way.
Be cool, I guess.
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Is the ask be called.
Lawrence Chase response to
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question, 3 saying honestly
whoever programs the AI is going
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to have an influence on what or
how it does, what it does.
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bad companies have biases and
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This may sway what results are
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what is best for the Searcher
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This is such a fair point
because people who are very
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imperfect people that might
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different, you know, skin
colors, to different
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sexualities, two different
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you have got to be careful about
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how you, you know, assume tone
of voice is in.
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Of a man or woman or non-binary
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be really careful.
Ashton cock response to question
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to say and I think that
generative a tie tools will
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continue to be the most useful
for PPC.
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audience, research and
competitor analysis.
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Other helpful use cases, maybe
spreadsheet or data cleanups and
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automating internal processes.
Julia herself response.
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Question 3, saying does hearing
about it, Breathlessly reported
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Ad nauseam count more seriously
hearing about it being deployed
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after the fact is a pain like
Google is doing right now with
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all their it would totally doing
it.
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I to announcement every other
year.
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It's almost like everybody else
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yeah, don't worry.
We're still doing it as well.
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And universe girls, you had the
comes on this Dogpile are an
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absolute mess.
Julie goes, I did write a very
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salty blog post, so if you go to
Neptune Moon dotnet you'll find
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that post about Her opinion as
to how they announce this Robert
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3 saying the biggest difficulty
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will be managing expectations.
People believe AI is a magic
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wand it can do anything and do
it better than people.
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The reality is much more mundane
and that leads to disappointment
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and the rubber Brady also agrees
with Lawrence's points as I did,
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where Lawrence had said honestly
whoever programs the AI is going
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to have an influence on water or
how it does what it does.
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And Robert goes great Point
here.
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If you can't see See, I would
how its put together or at least
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see, more of How It's coming to
the results.
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Then there is a lot of potential
for manipulation whether
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intentional or not.
So it might be just as I say
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unconscious bias.
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dealt with John Kagan response
to question, 3 saying the
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misconception that one a I can
replace humans unassisted and to
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that AI isn't just a giant
headache.
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So yeah, giant headache is from
from Taken, I think lock
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response to question.
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Same one, biases in the data
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plagiarism and copyright issues.
Especially for a i generated
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creative three, combating
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for blander and less interesting
content for second, I forgot
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what the word blander meant.
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Julie then goes on to question
for saying, what do you think is
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most exciting and or potentially
the most useful aspect of a AI
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for PPC.
So, so what do you think, is
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most exciting and or potentially
the most useful aspect of AI for
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PPC missile response saying, I'm
a freelancer.
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So I rarely have people to
bounce ideas off.
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I use chat GPT to do that, and
obviously, I'm loving the add
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ideas support from it to
overall, a great little helper
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doesn't beat as PPC brain at
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Travis response thing for me the
prospect of automating the
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mundane or time-consuming task.
It's quite exciting this holds
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up the potential for better
deeper thinking more time in my
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day or shorter working days.
All Stellar mental health boost.
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Absolutely.
I agree.
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So even if it's literally less
working time and spending my
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brain doing thinking of more fun
intrapreneurial ideas, I love
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that girl gonna respond saying
by far LMS.
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We bought a premium seat of chat
GPT for the agency and it's been
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really useful.
And even though I was very
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disappointed in bards release.
It turns out bad was
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intentionally, pretty limited.
I have hopes that they will
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release a newer version soon.
So they released something, but
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it wasn't that very much
competitive.
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Hmm, interesting.
Julia herself response to
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question, 14, the platform can
get AI.
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Or machine learning to marry up
interests, and queries and
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produce High converting ad copy.
I'd be quite excited about that,
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but it would also do it for
anyone who asks, for the danger
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of all ads being the same way.
Be real.
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Yep.
Jellyfish respondents said
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automated testing automated data
Vis in reporting major potential
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for automated landing page
creation, audience curation and
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you know, a partridge in a pear
tree, love Julia.
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She just comes out with some
phrases that you like they're
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like, wait why?
Ah, and go response to that same
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partridge in a pear.
Tree must be one of those
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bizarrely Canadian terms like
Weevil in my syrup.
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No, we use that phrase in the UK
as well, but it's more during
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Christmas time.
Yeah, exactly.
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Deliver ice goes yet an old
Christmas Carol.
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I know if it's not shopping
related, you Americans.
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Can't understand where it's got
a good Rhythm.
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Also and Go-Go's we use the same
tune but our lyrics changed to
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pickups in a liquor store locked
pick up in a liquor store lot.
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Like let's just move on from
that.
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I think that Cai iced in
response to a question.
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Same kind of mentioned this in a
two as well, but I think that
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generative AI tools.
Like, chat GPT will continue to
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get more powerful and produce
more useful outputs.
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This will help speed up more,
tedious tasks, so that we can
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focus more on strategy analysis,
Etc, John Kagan response to
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question for saying one that can
pull useful insights after
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watching my most frequent
reports and then Julie takes us
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on to question five asking, what
do you think is the most
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frustrating Troublesome or
negative aspect?
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Of AI for PPC.
So Travis respond saying there
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is an inherent risk of human
operators, taking lazy and
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brackets shortcuts.
The tools are no substitute for
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great strategy, quality
copywriting or data analysis
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insights.
That's actually a i I'd hate to
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see a door side content quality
degrade over time from Tool
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abuse.
That is such a fair point and
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shaba the ioc's agreed, I think
we'll see.
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Morris Q reaction across all
media from art to PC copy.
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Where made or written by hand is
a badge of honor.
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Absolutely.
Those kind of things of like,
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you know, I did this as my human
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This was not a, I supported with
one of those badge of honor like
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comments.
I agree with that Gilda response
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to question fights, and
ultimately machine learning uses
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data that's been generated by
real people, quality output
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requires quality input.
So the whole world can't totally
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shift to a He still needs to be
some human creativity.
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Agree.
And Julia voice response to
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question five saying it's a tie,
the comes the Chicken Little,
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the it will take over the P.
Max the trust, the machine, the
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Panic.
The immediate trust the boat
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battle, the antitrust, the mess
Lord.
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There's there's a lot to go
through here.
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There again, let me repeat what
she said.
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It's a tie, the cons, the
Chicken Little, the, it will
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take over the Pima.
The trust the machine, the
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Panic.
The immediate trust the bot
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battle.
The antitrust the mess.
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So yes, a lot to think about
them and then see if you can
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think that the tie between all
of those Julie respond saying
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I'm concerned about too much.
Only geniusness, if everyone is
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using AI for keyword ad, copy
and landing page ideas.
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Although it also creates space
for an advantage.
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For those who don't just use the
AI for all that training data
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bias is a real issue.
Issue to Travis goes.
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Great point about training days,
biases.
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That's not addressed nearly
often enough.
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There's a risk of diminishing
marginal return on total utility
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funny enough because of human
involvement, right?
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And Julie continue saying that.
Yeah.
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And then there's this, it has
the potential to really flatten
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research right now.
You have to either use a tool of
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some kind or manually, compile
your research.
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If AI is doing it all for you,
everyone will have the same.
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Again room to be better than a.
I do you live.
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I said this exact thing is going
to push propriety tools forward.
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Get ready for the political
chatter about polling quality to
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directly affect our industry and
Ashton clock response to
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question.
Five saying this isn't
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necessarily specific to PC by
tend to agree with the recent
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letters and statements about
slowing down AI production in
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general, this Tech is clearly
very powerful but can also be
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extremely I'm Philippa
development moves too quickly
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and we aren't careful and really
takes us on to the last question
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of the day and does another one
of those?
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Yeah, let's look include the
crystal ball.
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If we were to wish for anything.
And let's, let's for example,
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you know, and dream and wish
that actually our answers are
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queries, shall be listen to what
is on your AI wish list for PPC.
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He asks and trap is goes,
there's plenty of room for
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machine learning to address
poor.
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In search query, data example,
if my learning data is negative
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keyword, lists learn from that
address pluralization infer and
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avoid similar queries
advertisers provide powerful
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signals to Google to Casey stump
response saying, so all of the
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campaign building on its own
with just instructions from me,
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I still want to give its
settings and guidelines but if I
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didn't have to spend time
dealing with ADD managers
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anymore, I wouldn't be sad.
Yeah do you do Humane like
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Google ad managers because I
Agree.
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Julie advice gear comes in with
her wish list saying for now
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testing data Vis, and
high-volume AD creation, if it
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can understand specific
parameters, it's a tool
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ultimately probably more on my
list as things developed but
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that's on the short term for me.
We can decide if or how to
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deploy, then she continues.
Oh you know what find and manage
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and Miss information, that would
actually be great.
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Thank you.
And yeah, literally mr.
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Goes.
Yeah.
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Oh my God.
Yes.
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To use to this.
So yeah.
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Misinformation we need to start
with that.
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Then, Julia's World answers
question 16 where to start I
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would love a report Creator
where I told it what I wanted
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and it put all the data together
without me having to select
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every data point AI alerts.
Based on what I tell the
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platform is important to me
better recommendations, she
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continues, more advanced
semantic, understanding of
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words, how about some Basics?
Like not showing ads in
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untargeted Geographies
understanding query words that
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conflict with Geo targeting
settings and not showing the ADD
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no more disapprovals for single
words, words, cuz trademarks
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yeah, some some of them are
totally ridiculous and it takes
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a long time to.
Yeah, get over that trademark
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and to be showing for your ad
again, she continues suggesting
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possible negative keywords based
on the ones already added to the
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campaign or account highlighting
suggested placement, exclusions
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based on previously.
Excluded placements ad copy
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suggestions based on the ads
from advertisers in auction,
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insights as you continues, I
just can't stop.
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Now that I've started how about
a setting to Auto compared
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against a timeframe and
highlighting, what's changed and
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a why from the a I like cpcs are
up for this time because
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Advertiser X is spending a
buttload on that term now.
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So, yeah, more in-depth insight
as to why your performance or
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different.
Efficiency metrics has gone awry
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Angela versus well gives another
wish saying.
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I don't hate the idea of machine
learning or simple.
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AI media planning.
Hey plan a pal emphasize local
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media in my next by or tell me
what mood people are in on the
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various platforms.
I use so unfortunately, because
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I was actually in between trying
to multitask and when halfway
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through the chat, I have a
weekly internal meeting work
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meeting.
So I was trying to catch up with
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some of the Questions.
And I did want to answer
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question 5 and I said, I think
for me, it's the whole worry
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that it will take away their
jobs.
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So, literally in terms of what
you think is the most
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frustrating thing Troublesome,
one negative aspect of AI.
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So the whole it's going to take
away all our jobs AI, still
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needs a lot of guidance and it
only as good as the people
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creating it, having said that I
don't want Google forcing us to
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use it before.
It's ready, they'll be for the
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people creating it have actually
done, you know, a good job a
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thorough job.
Killer Bass response to that to
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my own so saying I have
fantastic news, Amazon and
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Facebook have already done this
Google, just told us about their
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plans.
So yeah, so Amazon and Facebook
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just went ahead without actually
telling us there, right?
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Oh, well, well, that brings us
to the end of that.
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Riverton chat about Ai and PPC.
And yeah, what we think about
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it, is it helpful, is it a bit
confusing?
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Should Google really be more
worried about the announcements
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and how they do announcing
Anyway, what do you think?
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And if you want to join us and
you have opinions about this
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topic and you'd like to, you
know, get on it and the more
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vocal way in a voice note, kind
of way, why don't you join us on
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Thursday at 5:00 p.m.
GMT. 12 p.m. eastern time, where
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we'll be having the Twitter
spaces chat about this, very
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topic for any feedback about the
podcast or maybe even some
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correction on anything that has
been shared.
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Do get in touch with me on
Twitter, my DMs are open on them
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handle at the mall.
Getting a new or find me on
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LinkedIn.
We also have the PPC chat
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Roundup podcast group so join us
on there.
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They'll also be great for
long-standing members and also
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brand new listeners to give the
podcast a rating or review.
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If you just go to link tree.com,
/p P c-- chat on the score round
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up, you Liam then be taken to
the different links.
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For that Spotify, I pull
excetera where they where you
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can, you know, take you seconds
to just leave a rating and it
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just gives an indication to
people that support cast worth
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listening to It's a great
motivator for me and means means
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that I'm motivated to keep doing
this every week.
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Even the night before I'm about
to travel.
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Yeah, we got a trip to her but
I'm loving doing this.
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Yeah, you'll also be great if
you check out our PPC, live UK
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is next event and that's going
to be on the 25th of May, if you
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know anyone who wants to
sponsor, please email, hello at
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PPC live UK.com to let us know
the packages start from as low
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as 500 pounds to a thousand five
and it really just helps us make
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this event.
A lovely, you know, boisterous
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networking event and allows us
to provide food allows us to
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record the talk.
So they're they're available on
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YouTube and just allows us to
learn more about what's going on
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in this industry in a very nice
and comfortable environment and
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face-to-face.
I don't know about some of you.
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I'm an extrovert I love meat
around with people so yeah.
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The law.
It's always great.
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Having these kind of events,
finally remember for your
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campaigns and businesses to
Glide smoothly.
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There's a lot of hard work
needed beneath the surface, so
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keep his hands kicking by and
speak to you next week.