EP227 - Meta & TikTok Ads
#ppcchat Twitter discussion that runs on Tuesdays at 5pm GMT - Led by Julie Bacchini (@NeptuneMoon)
Q1 Are you currently managing advertising on Meta or TikTok? If so, for what industry or industries?
Q2: Is this your first Q4 managing advertising on Meta or TikTok? If not your first, for how long have you been advertising on one or the other or both?
Q3 Do you have anything specific or special planned for Q4 on Meta or TikTok? @courtfalexander
- What should brands be doing?
Q4 What is your biggest concern or challenge regarding Meta and/or TikTok advertising heading into Q4 this year? Is it different from last year (if you advertised on these platforms then)?
Q5 Do you have any favourite resources or follows that help you keep up with the latest in Meta and/or TikTok advertising?
Q6 What other questions do you have, in general and/or for Courtney about Meta or TikTok advertising?
Thank you for listening!
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Hello, and welcome to this
week's episode of the PBC chat
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Roundup in today's episode.
We have Julie taken us on the
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topic of meta, and Tick-Tock ads
creative strategies needed for
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Q4.
So I believe that there was
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actually a Google ads, my ads
week, I'm in New York show
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happening on the Google morning
show that feels like one of the
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breakfast TV shows that we have
here in the UK.
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But, yeah, well, this is
something very different from,
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you know, our Usual.
And at this stage I think it is
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important to remember that when
we say PPC, we don't just mean
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paid search ads in Google or
Microsoft such ads, but we
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actually mean any paid media
channels and obviously as we
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know as digital advertising has
been evolving.
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And something that we talked
about at Pi live today where I
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spoke earlier on about marketing
budgets, they loads of new
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channels that doing loads of new
things and being nodes of, you
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know, CPC based modeling.
So yeah, see PCP CC can come in
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all shapes and sizes and not
just Google or on Microsoft or
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Bing or Microsoft advertising,
but also on Facebook, Instagram
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Tick-Tock Snapchat.
So yeah, we are going to be
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talking especially specifically
about meta and Tick-Tock today.
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So yeah, we have Julie taking us
on a, a great chat today and I
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think it's because it's not
because in conjunction with her
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having any sponsor, Foxwell
digital who specialize in social
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media, especially social media
advertising.
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So yeah, we're going to be
talking about meta and Tick Tock
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ads.
So yeah, there she also gets
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joined by the co-host.
With who is from Fox, will
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digital.
The lady's name is Courtney
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Alexander, so She'll be
answering some questions there,
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so, yeah, Courtney goes, let's
go, let's get this chat.
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Started is the perfect time to
chat about a queue for Creative,
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but before we start, we have
Julie given her usual.
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PSA going, this chat is intended
for PPC, Professionals of all
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Lurkers and listeners of the
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You're welcome.
So yeah, let's get straight into
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our first question.
Julie asks, are you currently
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managing advertising on metal or
Tick?
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Tock if so, for what industry or
industry.
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So, yeah, my specialty is the
paid search siren things at
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Google and Microsoft ad.
So none of tick-tock or meta for
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specifically my clients.
No, but we got one one account
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but they are on a lull at the
moment.
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We have Danielle.
Yeah, sorry Diana going.
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Yes, I'm managing a Sighs in
advertising on both matter and
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Tick-Tock for SAS.
Daniel goes meta B2B b2c lead
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gen and e-comm nope, that was
easy.
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That was some Steve Gibson.
So, yeah, I wonder whether he's
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gonna be part of any more of
this chat and then we have Julie
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advise going.
Yes.
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For a fast-food clients, have a
public sector clients, a local
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retail and now luxury, travel,
we have Robert Brady going met
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in the home and garden space as
well as B2B app space.
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No tick-tock Julie goes, I
actually do not have any active
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campaigns on metal or Tick-Tock
currently looking forward to
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head.
What all you brilliant folks are
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doing the shown any response
saying, yes for matter?
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No, for Tick-Tock.
I love the way he was
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pronounced, new spells it out.
TI C KT, o CK.
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That's such a rebel shown is and
then he continues, but we are
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currently looking into options
there.
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We have a variety of clients on
meta dtc's or direct to consumer
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food brands, car parts
companies.
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To be this has been hardest to
get results from Recently.
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He continues just got laughed at
by Rachel logo for spelling it
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like a clock.
Exactly.
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I was trying to answer quickly
and haven't had enough coffee.
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Courtney does btb is challenging
on social ads for sure.
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Have you found success with
LinkedIn ads for be to being
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shown goes?
Yes, LinkedIn, performs very
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well for the client, cpcs are
just very high.
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So, when we have less budget, we
try to go to Facebook and use it
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to see.
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With Results were definitely
been falling in the last year or
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so Courtney goes.
I've seen this also met as
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definitely can work, but since
they removed so many interest
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audiences targeting for B2B is
challenging.
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Also, post iOS 14.
It's hard to attribute since
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using, likely to see things
users likely to see the ad in
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the put personal time, but
wouldn't convert until they
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return to work.
And then we have Courtney
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herself responding to the
question question once in.
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Yes, my specialty.
And preferred preference is
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small business.
DTC retail brands that I can get
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to work with Founders or small
teams.
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My Brands range from collectible
souvenirs to Fashion to home
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decor to dog collars and
harnesses interesting, DNA takes
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us swiftly on to question.
Forcing is this your first key
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for managing advertising on meta
or Tick Tock, if not your first
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for?
How long have you been
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advertising on one or the other
or both Daniel?
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Body goes to 10 years now with
meta biggest learning is that
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anything can work?
It's a matter of how you define
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success if you define it, well,
then you will run successful
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campaigns.
Diana goes on meta, I have been
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advertising for six years.
Now, while on take talk for just
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one year to talk, one year
better for much longer, the
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Robert Brady goes down the q14
on meta Facebook for a few
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years.
Every year is different and
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requires.
You put in the work, John Keegan
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joints.
Question one saying, yeah, on
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metal literally old Industries,
Q Sr Healthcare automotive
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excetera and to a lesser degree.
Tick-Tock curious are in cpg.
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I don't think those acronyms of
the stuff that we will find, in
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words were color.
On our official BBC chat,
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acronyms page because those are
more Brands than actual metrics,
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acronyms or marketing acronyms.
Julie, advisors wants to
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question to you saying, for met,
it's been years across a couple
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of agencies for Tick-Tock.
I'm in year. 2 matter, changes
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details on the platform and
placements every 10 minutes.
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Or so Tick-Tock changes products
roughly every second day.
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It's a lot.
Ashton Carter who goes metal?
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Yes, and e-commerce clients is
running Facebook ads and boosted
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posts.
We also recently tested Facebook
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marketing for client in the
higher education, space still
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haven't tried anything on
Tick-Tock.
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Mainly because we focus on other
channels first and their uses
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skew younger, Daniel vahdat,
then responded said prabha.
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Ten years with meta, biggest
learnings, is that anything can
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work.
It's a matter of how you define
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success if you define it.
Well, then you will run
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successful campaigns.
And if the league was response
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to question one saying, I mainly
focus on search or programmatic,
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but little Healthcare marketing
on meta John, King response.
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Question Tuesday, informaton
know, we treat search and paid
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social as biddable, so our team
is cross-trained in both for
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Tick-Tock first key for, in on
first key, for in on, It as a
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team still haven't fully decided
who scope it falls under.
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And it's question to Courtney
goes first yet.
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Going all-in on Tick, Tock ads
for Q4.
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I tested them with one brand
last year, but it was on a small
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spend and it hasn't and it
wasn't a proven platform yet for
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that brand.
A lot of these channels, not
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approving one yet.
She continues.
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Not my first rodeo from with
meta ads for Q4 there.
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I've been managing me to add in
some capacity since 27.
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But this will be my third BF
Black Friday Cyber Monday queue
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for focusing exclusively on d t,
see ads for Q4.
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Chanel, a response question to
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Yeah, if we launched Tick-Tock
it will be a first for any
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quarter.
Haven't been seen Mac.
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Haven't been running metal in Q4
for a long time, but not for the
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traditional Black Friday type
clients and then in response to
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Courtney going.
First year, going all-in on
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Tick-Tock, ask you for trying to
goad is Sean.
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Goes did it.
I'm better or worse, than what
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you anticipated being a new
platform with a smaller budget,
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accordingly.
Because last year, I think it
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was a nice way to supplement.
The bulk of our ad spend on meta
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but it wasn't a true lift.
Since our pixel was new and I'll
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earnings were so small.
I'm glad we did it and it
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launched, our Tick-Tock ads for
2022 and then we have Julie
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taken us on to question 3.
Saying do you have any specific
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or special planned a special or
specific plan for Q4 on meta?
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Tick-Tock then a response.
We have several campaigns
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planned to run on meta in Q4.
Not so many for Tech talk
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though.
Yeah, big for retail and we get
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to see how that pans out for a
met.
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Especially, I'd say Ashton
clock, especially goes the
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answers.
Question to saying I've had at
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least one client running
Facebook ads and Q4 from the
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past four years, but it's
looking like, this will actually
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be my first Q4 without anything
doing so, mainly due to client
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changes.
And then we have Dave, the
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league was responding to
question 2.
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Same be nonmetal for years but
only a little dabbing dabbling
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on Tick-Tock since last year and
he just went TT, don't know
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which one is better to do the TT
or The Tick Tock like a clock
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that short like you did.
That was funny.
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GTA Vice response to question
three saying.
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Yep here's a tip for this group,
Tick-Tock has a takeover product
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that you can retarget off of and
you can sequence creative
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imagine your brand owning the
whole screen time.
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Every time someone opens
Tick-Tock with a different
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creative on each open, it's a
lot and I'm excited.
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I don't know where that's cool.
That's like that.
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Just sounds like it's a lot.
But anyway, I don't use tank
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tops or maybe.
I do not need to be worried.
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Julie goes, well, that sounds
pretty groovy John King response
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then.
Yep, it's the holidays, but
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stuff, while you can still get
it a fool or a food it.
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So it's again, it's holidays by
stuff.
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While you can still get it.
Oh, afford it.
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Julie rice is our response to,
to you Julia.
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She says that sounds groovy.
It is it's cool I'm treating it
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how I treat you to mastheads put
a stake in the ground build a
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lot of awareness right away than
sustained for the duration and
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yeah Julie goes.
So an article that people are
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buying less at grocery stores in
the US.
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So that's not a great sign for
Holiday purchasing season.
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Ashton Glock response to
question 3, say most of our
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clients right now are focused on
search or haven't been major
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successes on Facebook.
So we're helping with Boosted
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posts, but not any foot on
campaigns Tiffany shares
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response, saying I have been
managing metaphor few years.
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changes Chanel response.
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Question 3 saying, we have a
couple clients looking to make a
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push for Q4 but also have some
hesitant clients.
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With expensive products that are
pulling back due to the economy
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to save some budgets.
Meta is not really a primary, a
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primary platform for any of our
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It is usually first to get it
cuts and then we have Courtney,
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Alexander responding to question
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doing right now testing in all
caps, go ahead and launch some
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pre-holiday or gifting
creatives.
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brand or product and who they
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might gift it to and then, yeah.
Could you continue to anything?
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Go ahead and start seeding.
Your product would creators.
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If you haven't already aim to
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no later than the end of
October, ideally or creative
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edits Ready to go by early to
mid November, surround yourself
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with like-minded advertisers,
the founders membership is a
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great place for this for all
budgets sizes.
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It's a lot.
This allows you to do testing
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and research and hear from
others on what is or isn't
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working around the world
content.
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And finally Courtney goes
finally start preparing plan for
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Black Friday, Cyber Monday
weekend as needed to make sure
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you're available to make changes
as needed.
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Create a Plan A B C, Etc.
So that, you know, if this then
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or that for anything, that could
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and in response to his answer.
Julie had said, great
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suggestion.
Seems like holiday sales are
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happening earlier, too.
So don't get left behind by
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waiting too long.
Courtney goes many brands are
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doing sales all November long.
Some the same discount, some
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tiered or changes weekly.
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strategy and retargeting.
His customers during this time,
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get them excited for holiday and
sale purchasing and then we have
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Abdullah taken us on to
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Forcing, what is your biggest
concern or challenge regarding
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meta and or Tick-Tock
advertising heading into Q for
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this year?
Is it different from last year?
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If you advertised on these
platforms then and we have
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Daniel body going busy.
Biggest concern, for all of
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these channels is how to measure
the impact relying on platform.
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Reporting has always been
overinflated, but relying
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Elastic click attribution was
also a problem.
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Great Point Courtney respond
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I'm using triple whale, which is
a handle triple whale or North
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Beam with my DTC clients so
that's direct to Consumer and
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actually just started testing
out, get sociopath so GE TS o.
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SE ioh.
Brand-new third-party pixel to
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supplement data and learnings to
try to remedy the remedy this
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and get actual data also.
Using Google analytics and utm's
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as much as possible to have as
full of a picture, as I can with
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accurate attribution.
Now Diana response to in terms
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of the response question for, in
terms of her biggest fear going,
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biggest challenge regarding meta
advertising is related to the
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retargeting campaigns which
became less powerful compared to
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how they were in the past
Courtney goes.
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Absolutely, this is a huge
difference this year and we need
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to pay attention to this as we
are actively in the trenches.
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This Q4 And then Sean Ellie
response to question forcing
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clients are more wary of the
economic conditions.
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Amazon running Prime day, in
October may cut into some Black
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Friday, Cyber Monday, sales all
leading to smaller budgets for
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these platforms and then they
click was response.
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To question. 14 matter is kind
of cool even with all the
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changes but the challenge of
creating Tick Tock ads that are
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authentically, native to the
platform will take some
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stretching for some dusty
companies or Industries.
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Robert, Brady goes.
Does anyone else feel like meta
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is just more buggy lately and
that targeting including
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look-alike audience has has been
shaky.
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Andrew goes.
Yes, absolutely.
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We talked about it in our group
a lot and how to combat it down.
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It goes.
I am on the same page with you
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here and yeah the online
advertising agency goes
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definitely and in response to a
question for we've got Courtney
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going.
Yeah, data loss is not our
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friend retargeting would be
more.
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Consolidated, which means ad
creative.
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Can't be as targeted and
specific to where that customer
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is in their purchasing Journey.
There's also much more
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competition and buy-in or Tick
Tock as this year cpms are
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higher than they were last year
as it becomes a legitimate
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platform for DC companies and
profitable ads creative now more
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than ever has to be top-notch.
This doesn't mean produced an
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expensive, but rather resonates
with customers get to the
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attention quickly addresses.
How the Is a need, not even a
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want and why?
It's better than any other
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competitors videos are grades,
obviously 100% necessary in your
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creative strategy.
But don't forget about static
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images and Graphics.
Try to allow your creative to
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stand out from the crowd, solve
problems and make it a must by
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now creative and that was pretty
out in food Tweeter.
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Yeah, I hope you caught all of
that.
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Took note or just rewind.
Oh, that's to read, listen to
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that again.
And then we have Ashton clock
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responded.
Question forcing our biggest
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challenge for meta has been
conversion, tracking, regardless
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of quarter, since the iOS update
in April, 20-21 discrepancies
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between the Facebook platform,
analytics platforms, and clients
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sales, or internal data, make it
difficult to gauge.
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A true success.
Courtney goes, agreed, are you
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using third-party tracking
software?
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Pixel action goes, were mainly
using the Facebook pixel, and
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Google analytics.
Ga4, we also tried setting up
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the face, Look conversions API
but it's a big technical lift
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and their developers have had a
number of issues.
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So we haven't been able to use
that yet.
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Are there any that you've had
success with Courtney goes?
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Yeah, for Shopify stores.
My favorite is triple well and
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it's reasonably priced.
And pays for itself with the
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accurate reporting.
It can provide.
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I'm also excited to test gets us
youth pixels.
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They just released last week and
they also offer a custom
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catalogs for da Bas and dpas
action continues.
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Awesome.
Thank you.
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I'll definitely check those out
and then we have Julie taken us
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one to question five saying, do
you have any favorite resources
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or follow-ups that help you keep
up with the latest in metal or
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Tick Tock advertising?
Think we got quite a bit?
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Did you follow ups or follows?
Yes?
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Resources or follows and Diana
goes, just some of them Jake the
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add node Gil underscore run.
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say nav U, UD the Riley, sir,
was that Tara who Lisa even
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Rahul is are so yeah, so he's
handle is th, er, a hul is SAR.
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The Rahul is are even and then
Herman digital.
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So hitch, errm aannd, I Gita L
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See agreed with all of these her
And digital keeps me sane.
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And it means me, of course, his
name is not Herman digital.
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His name is David Herman, so,
yeah, full of this guy's for
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Tick-Tock or meta ads.
Advice Julie goes.
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I'm not just saying this because
Andrew fox hall is for
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sponsoring today's chat.
Foxhole digital's blog and
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emails are top resource for me
at Villa De Fazio.
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So that's a kvi l.e.d. e, fa Z
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Next month is also a great
follow and Herman digital for
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tick-tock.
Especially is good.
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And then yeah you've got the
blog that she gave, so it's all
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folks.
Well digital don't come forward,
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slash blog, email signup is for
/ email and the founders group
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is .po dr.com forward slash
Foxwell Founders.
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So yeah, you want to learn more
about social media, follow all
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those resources and a response
to question five day.
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Good luck.
Dave, Gallegos goes, I liked
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listening to Tod maffin on the
dailies and the marketing
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o'clock crew.
On Fridays and yeah Julie go s
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to Market.
It s markets in a clock for
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sure.
They cover all things, PPC, SEO,
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and social and then Julie takes
us on to the last question
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going.
What other questions do you
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have?
In general were for Courtney
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about meta, or Tick Tock
advertising, Daniel, body goes,
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do you think matter Tick-Tock
will be forced to let
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programmatic platforms bid on
their inventory.
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At some point, have you or
anyone tried to bid on meta,
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inventory, via Microsoft ads,
it's supposed to Available to
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some advertisers Chronicles.
Such an interest.
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Interesting question, I'm
actually not sure on this one
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Andrew Fox.
Well, what do you think Andre
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goes?
I don't think so for now.
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Audience Network is kind of like
that and and quality is crap.
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Daniel Robert, Brady goes for
client, just starting with
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Tick-Tock.
What advice do you have to get
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them a quick start and in
response to that?
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Courtney goes, quick question,
definitely install the pixel on
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the site as soon as possible
tick-tock.
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Needs a data.
I would start with totally
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brewed targeting and also start
with a higher funnel objective
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like ATC before going into icy
and then P.
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You are.
I hope those acronyms are
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available on official PPC chat.
Courtney then continues also
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creative is King on Tick-Tock
ads if you have an organic
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Tick-Tock or reels videos that
have done well used those.
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I also tell my clients to not
start Tick-Tock ads on till they
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have a bank.
Content and an incoming flow of
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new content, Tick-Tock needs
more creative than metal.
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Then she continues to tick.
Tock is also great for testing
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new creatives before adding two
metal ads, because of the nature
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of users watching videos and
them be more likely to want to
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discover new things and be
entertained with Tick-Tock
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content.
And I think we are introducing
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two new resource hair.
So when Tim Halloran responded
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to question 3 saying meta and
part of a few beaters.
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So we'll see what happens with
those.
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Most of what I'm doing on those
channels revolves around
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creative ways to use lists and
first-party data.
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I have been dabbling in
Advantage Plus for few e-comm
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clients and it's doing decent.
What are your thoughts on
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Advantage?
Plus Daniel body goes 10 goes, I
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have a larger scale test.
I'm running right now.
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With a client that has a low V
around a 92. $100 Target rows of
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3 to 4 8, plus started at a at a
no point.
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Eat.
But I've left it alone for a few
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weeks and it's closing in on
three interested to see if it
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keeps improving.
Robert goes when you say a plus
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the that does that refer to the
targeting placements creative or
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Tim goes, I was referring to
targeting mainly but I do have
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one campaign that you're
running.
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If a Plus on campaign ad set
targets and placements and add
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level makes me a bit nervous,
but performance is okay.
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Judy goes, what is the account?
History level for this is this a
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well-established meta.
Visor I'm curious how Advantage
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Plus does with new accounts
versus more established ones
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with data and history.
Courtney goes, we're still so
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new with the ASC and its
rollout.
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It's not even in every account
yet that there may not be date
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on new versus established that
counts.
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Right now.
I'm still very much testing it
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and using it as a compliment in
account structure, but not the
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main driver.
Tim Halloran goes same.
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And on that note, we come to the
end of this chatter didn't
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realize And will be on, that's
very interesting thread.
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That Tim is.
So yeah, I hope you've taken
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some great takeaways, are you
doing metal?
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You didn't take talk, I you now
more intrigued to test it out,
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some great tips and thread in
there that I read out from
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Courtney in terms of the best
tips on how to do Tick-Tock,
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especially the one that really
screamed out that made me go, oh
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my God, I don't have time for.
That is the fact that you need a
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lot of creative already in the
bank and you need to have A
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consistent way of producing a
driver of producing more content
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for future post.
So, yeah, that is something I
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might need to hire someone for
PPC live UK in the future.
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But for now, I'm going to be
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