EP224 - Planning & Research in Today’s PPC
#ppcchat Twitter discussion that runs on Tuesdays at 5pm GMT - Led by Julie Bacchini (@NeptuneMoon)
Q1 Are you in the midst of any PPC planning right now? If so, what kinds of planning are you working on?
Q2: How are you handling budgeting planning for 2023? Are you using 2022 or your comparison? If so, why and if not, why not and what are you using? Are other economic factors coming into your planning (inflation, recession, etc.)?
Q3 How are you conducting keyword research these days (if you are!)? Any tools you’re using that you like to help with this task?
Q4 How are you conducting competitor research these days (if you are)? Any tools you’re using that you like to help with this task?
Q5 What is your biggest challenge with PPC planning or research right now? Let’s see if we can help each other!
Thank you for listening!
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Hello, and welcome to this
week's episode of the PPC chat
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Roundup in today's episode.
We have Julie taken us on a very
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great topic.
I know, I will say that, but
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it's always true talking about
planning and research in two
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days.
PPC.
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So, she actually messaged me
just before the chat started
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saying that we should like my
suggestion about planning for
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next year and how budgeting will
happen?
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I'm not going to spoil the
surprise what the question is
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going to be.
But yeah, it's based on
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Something I suggested did now
build this chat around it about
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planning, and researching in
today's PPC.
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So yeah, we are gathered this
afternoon for me, most of the
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questions, but not all of them.
But yeah, some great tips on
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best ways to plan, keyword
research, competitive, research,
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competitor analysis, and all
that kind of stuff.
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So, yeah, hope you enjoy.
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on another very timely topic as
becoming too cute for like,
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yeah, September has flown by us
at the beginning of September
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September.
I remember you put it in message
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on LinkedIn saying happy new
month.
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Happy last month before Q4 and
yeah, that last month before Q4
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has flown by because 27, then
we're going to enter October on
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Saturday, so good luck with
preparing for that generally.
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But yeah, Really guys before we
get to the questions, this chat
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Of course, are always.
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Welcome to.
Yeah, but you know, she says
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before she starts off, she goes
higher how we all doing today.
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Before we get into the
questions, we have Diana.
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Alina joined us saying I'm a
fireman little bit.
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Tired.
Julie goes.
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Yeah, lots of big.
Emotional emotions for her.
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Her kid is turning 10.
Today, tomorrow is her mom's
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birthday and she passed away
early this year.
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I believe it was.
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So it's the first first birthday
I'm over at Mom's birthday.
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Does after she's passed God,
Rest his soul, I have Julie's.
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Okay, and yeah, we end the week
with also, her anniversary, 16,
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fabulous years with her husband,
which is fantastic.
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And yeah, I put intended.
Emoji of hugs for hikers.
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Yeah, having that birthday my
mom's birthday.
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Just after she passed can't be
easy.
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Will also have actor joining us
as well as Nadine.
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Dang khoa.
Oh, I'm not sure she joined us.
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She'd mentioned the fact that
she's doing doing EU SMX, lucky
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her.
Anyway, let's just get into the
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questions.
Why don't we write?
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And I see Dwayne Brown also
joins us as well as frasor
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Andrews and John Kay and joined
on time and John Rodriguez.
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Yeah, question.
In one.
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Are you in the midst of any PC
planning right now?
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If so what kinds of planning are
you working on?
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And we have Daniel parse Cal
responding saying yes, but still
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at a bit of a high level budget
conversations are happening, of
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course.
But we're also exploring media
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makes expansions and trying to
move from solely both, who
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advertising.
So, bottom of the funnel, a lot
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of options on the list of
proposals Diana response.
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Last week, I was in the midst of
planning. 4q for online
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advertising.
Goes same trying to finish the
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year strong planning out a great
finish for Q4 and then we have
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freezer Andrews responding to
question.
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One saying hi gang.
Near role has a lot more of a
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B2B event Focus.
So planning is very much in a
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Christmas planning mode.
Also just trying to take
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seasonal learnings but still
adding the major caveat of
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covid.
Yeah that caveat of covid and
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economic crisis is something we
really need to think about We
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get to talk about yeah why we do
a little stage John King and
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response saying that there's
there isn't a moment that I'm
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not planning currently.
I have 2023 planning Q4 planning
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peak season planning retail on
Healthcare q1, seasonal
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planning, health care and
finance all while trying to find
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time to curse do for and P Max
up.
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Let's John-John responds.
Mm, so we have John Rodriguez
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saying, yes, we're currently
planning for 2023.
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Julie goes, yeah, planning for
2023 for clients budgets and
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strategy also.
Business planning for Neptune's
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moon and PPC, chatting that
exciting, and also putting a
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timeline to figuring out how to
actually use GA for you, has
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anyone figured that out?
Yeah, Frazier goes, oh my God.
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Yes, g.
A full timeline is needed, Duty
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goes.
I have to turn it into a project
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or I would just keep putting it
off.
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Online advertising goes still
seeing issues with many
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third-party software related to
PC or SEO, not integrating.
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Well with GA for that is putting
Major delay on Switching more so
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than just learning it.
And then we have Ashton claw
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corresponding.
Same always right now we're
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planning for various initiatives
in October, and November don't
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have many e-comm clients.
So, not as much of a focus on
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holiday season prep more.
So, looking for expansion and or
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refinement refinement
opportunities.
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He continues also starting to
look ahead to q1 2023 and
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finding or planning for new
clients.
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Hello.
Chase response.
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Question once a mostly 2023
planning at this point but still
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some smaller tactical planning
around the holidays, for some
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Brands.
And I respond saying, yeah, my
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clients definitely are, you
know, planning for 2023 and
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looking at things, especially
around row as you didn't
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continue saying that to give
some question to saying, how are
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you handling budgeting planning
for 2023?
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Are you using 2022 or your
comparison for your comparison?
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If so, why I'm If not, why not,
and what are you using?
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Our other economic factors
coming into your planning
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inflation, recession, Etc?
And those?
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That's the question I asked
about literally, we need to be
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great to have a conversation
about in terms of forecasting
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for next year.
What is our Benchmark is a 2022?
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Is it 2021 is, or those years to
I have where those yes, too
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unpredictable to use as a
benchmark.
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So does that mean you're looking
at, in 2019?
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Then we have online advertising,
continuing saying that I'm
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responding saying each year is
drastically different.
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We have noticed that some
clients have a drop in volume
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close to elections.
Major events can sometimes
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shake-up results, Julie respond
saying that, and if it feels
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like the last two and a half
years, have had an inordinate
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amount of this kind of quaking.
Diana responds, I look at the
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data from last year.
Are always taken economic
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factors into account.
That's a response to question
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two.
I look at the data.
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So, from last year, while always
taking economic factors into
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account, and we have learnt
responding to question 2 saying,
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budgeting is complicated across
B2B and b2c.
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It is a mix of looking at the
previous year.
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But also, where do we want to be
and where do we want to go?
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Julie response to question 2
saying I'm trying to look at
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budget data from 2019 through
2022, to try to figure out or
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plan for 2023 and yes, inflation
and recession concerns.
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I definitely making a Ruckus In
the planning of right now.
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Lauren's response saying yes,
this is a very real issue right
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now.
We need only look at how grocery
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bills look this year versus
previous years or look at your
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401k actually don't do that.
And then we have Sean Ellie
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responding to question to st.
It depends on the client.
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Some are a little leery of the
current economic States or
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trying to hold budgets.
But the rising costs of see EPC,
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makes it difficult to use this
year's budget, or last year's
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less traffic for some cost and
Julie continue seeing Rising.
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Cpcs are definitely a concern.
I don't expect that Trend to
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reverse or even slow down,
especially with the increasing
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medine of query matching.
My general advice right now.
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Is you can't spend what you
spent in 2022 and expect the
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same results, which is always
fun.
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Sean Ellie respond saying that.
Yes, this makes it so tough.
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Especially as we have seen
conversion rates start to
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decrease and seen forecast for a
less-than-stellar holiday
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season, which some clients
depend on and we have actually
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responded to question.
One saying launching into new
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markets, some of the e-comm
clients want to go on
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omni-channel for different
geographic location.
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Launches they are preferring
that UK and EU markets for B2B.
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I'm working on preparing the
reactivation campaigns for
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dormant clients in Q4.
That's very good.
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Idea doing Brownells the
response to question once.
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And of course, Black Friday Q4
is on our teens mind across
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clients.
Plus always looking at q1 and Q2
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2023 with some clients.
I predict Amazon will be huge in
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2023 because of the recession
thinking about the kinds of
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media mix right now.
John response to question 2,
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saying luckily, the organization
I'm with benefited from the
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pandemic telling mental health.
So we're using 2022 as a point
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of reference so far.
Forecasts show that there's will
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and be another boom in our
industry due to the recession.
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Yes.
A lot of people are going to
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need mental health assistance
with recession and Julie goes.
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I'm fascinated by the shifts in
consumer Behavior since covid.
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Yeah, some areas have suffered
some areas have sword Julie, Dan
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response to Sean Ellie when Sean
have responded to question 2.
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Saying the rising cost of CPC
makes it difficult to use this
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year's budget or last year's.
Julie goes Rising.
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Cpc's are definitely a concern.
I don't expect that Trend to
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reverse or even slow down,
especially with the increasing
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mudding.
A query matching, my general
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advice right now is you can't
spend what you spent in 2022 and
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expect the same results which is
always fun.
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And we have Diane Elena
responded saying, I look at the
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data from last year, while
always taking economic factors
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into account, you have to, and I
respond to question to say, no
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clear answer for which one way,
or the other.
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Because that part of Of planning
to my clients and, you know,
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until they tell us what their
budgets are for next year.
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You don't know how they plan is
specifically going it.
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I just knew that it is going but
yeah, my clients are definitely
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geared more towards.
What is driving row us now and
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trying to add a bit of a
percentage increase on that?
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I think they overestimated, one
of my clients try to estimate
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for 50% increase, you know, in
return, but they didn't quite
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get that ago, about 20 percent
increase, which was really great
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for them here, and yeah, but
yeah. 20:22 very unpredictable
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for everyone and then we have
shown Ellie responding about the
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rising CBC saying yes, this
makes it so tough especially as
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we have seen conversion rate
starts to decrease and seen
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forecasts for less than Stellar
holiday season, which some
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clients depend on.
And then we have Dwayne Brown
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responding to question to say.
Most of our clients have an
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ideally month, monthly budget.
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based on product launches
possible, Almonds and other
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external factors.
We don't plan budgets a year out
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as it is a waste of time.
No one can predict.
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What will happen a year out?
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times, no one knew.
But we still would, would plan
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for 12 months in advance and try
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For each month will do based on
previous year.
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no idea.
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Ashton clock response to
question 2 saying, for the most
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part, we're planning for similar
ad, spend budgets as 2022,
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because most of our clients,
Don't have fluctuations in
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budget each month.
Definitely aware of economic
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concerns, but haven't really had
any kind indicate that this will
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impact their ad spend.
It's a response saying, I see a
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mixed version of responses, in
terms of budget planning on 2023
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preparations.
Early 2022 has been mild for the
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businesses and in Q4 companies
are planning to spend heavily
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and take some risks.
I am talking about companies I
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interact with and actor gives
another answer the question.
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You saying we have experiments
going on, majorly.
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Finding the new markets for the
launches and reactivating
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dormant businesses.
The major issue is testing with
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both sides, especially with the
new market launches.
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I see that clients are not
hesitating with testing stuff
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and I'd really takes us on to
question 3.
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Saying, let's switch gears to
research.
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How are you conducting keyword
research these days if you are
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any tools you're using that you
would like to help with this.
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Talks that you like to help with
this task.
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So, fear goes absolutely agree
with previous answers when stuck
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because of a very Niche product
or service.
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Sometimes I type in Google
search, the main explanation of
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the product plus the alphabet
letters to see, what are the
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common searches then.
Use another tool to check search
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volume online advertising goes
keyword.
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Planning is still a place to get
ideas, not hard data.
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Also, semrush and spyfu a key.
It's tools, we use, but again,
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more for keyword ideas to test,
rather than the exact words will
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use James podcast response, to
be honest, assuming we have the
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volume of spend broad match is
highly effective will use broad
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match of the ovary of obvious
terms.
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But also competitors hemming
response saying mainly Google
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search keyword tools, but I keep
looking at search console and
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aah, Russ report, that gives a
lot of long-term.
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Tail keywords, that generate
sales or leads at much lower
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cost.
And then we have Lawrence
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responded.
Question 3 second keyword
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research these days is not all
that much different than
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previously with one big change.
I'm doing negative keyword
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research at the very beginning.
I've seen campaigns where 80% or
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more of the Search terms are not
shown 80% Jace.
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After responds, I started
noticing negatives ahead of time
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as well.
Helps a lot to cut out some of
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that noise right now.
When campaigns launched online
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advertising goes expert move,
everyone should always Put
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negatives before launching saves
a lot of money and really goes.
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Yeah, it's amazing what you can
glean.
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If you look at auto complete on
Google to for your main terms,
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definitely gives you things to -
out from the start.
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Yeah, the whole frequently
searched questions.
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James Paul cars response to
question 3.
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Saying to be honest, assuming we
have the volume of spend broad
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match is highly effective will
use broad match of obvious terms
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for also competitors.
It's Julia herself response to
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question, 3 saying the Google
AdWords, Keyword, Planner, ain't
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what it used to be.
Sadly, I like keywords
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everywhere for ideas and with
keywords, and query matching,
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fuzzing orbis tool for
misspelling is a must hats off
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to a manufacturer.
For this is tools dot SEO.
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Book.com forward slash spelling
forward slash key words, hyphen
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typos.
Dot CGI.
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I'll put that link in our show
notes, so yeah.
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Out for that in the show notes
on the marketing and it.com
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website.
So yeah that's a great tool on
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you too especially for looking
for Miss spellings and matching
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you know Co matching fuzzing up
kind of thing and you know
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response to that seen that if
you do nothing else use the
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misspelling tool for your brand.
So that you can - those terms
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out of your non brand campaigns
along with your actual brand
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terms, do it for competitors to
as they will match.
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CH4 brand now and we have a John
Rodriguez responding as well
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saying, I've recently been using
keyword tool dot IO, not to
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identify ideal keywords to
Target both identified negative
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keywords now that the landscape
has changed the terms of keyword
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matching.
So yes, it's a lot of finding
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things that should not be used
anymore.
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Don't kick in response to
question 2 saying I am using
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2022 for this most for the most
part because it is now similar
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to 2019.
But I'm scanning the expected
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CPC cost as we've seen them
Skyrocket, above normal levels.
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Since April Ashton cock response
to a question a3c, mainly used
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the Google ads Keyword Planner.
I searched core terms.
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First, then note any related
terms along with the volume and
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CPC ranges to determine a
campaign structure and a budget
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recommendation.
I've also also used keywords
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everywhere in the passport More
for SEO, kwr and John King in
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response to question three
saying this is such a trick
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question.
These days, I still do it but
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with the concept of match type
lacking and smart campaigns
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abound, it is really is becoming
less relevant.
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I don't know, maybe, I'm just
doing it for Nostalgia and then
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we have Julie as well.
Give me another answer.
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The question 3 saying, you could
also go totally new school and
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run DSA campaigns and see what
Google matches for you new
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school and that's all Go.
I've been doing this for a
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while, in addition to specific
campaigns, it is eye-opening to
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say the least.
You can share with SEO teams to
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at the girls have been doing
this for New Market.
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Launches since I don't know what
works, I let a DS.
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A run with the homepage and keep
on.
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Excluding landing pages.
Works awesome with multiple
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product website to find the
popular search term.
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That's a very intelligent idea.
Then response to question.
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Three actor goes.
Yeah.
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Apart from some Russian spy.
Who are my?
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Go apart.
From this Bing has an
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interesting Keyword.
Planner, it helps you to segment
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keywords into categories.
Worth a look.
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I use social listening tools.
It helps.
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You get on top of your into
industry jargon and you can test
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them.
Absolutely official people see
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chat drop cam and acronyms page
where you can see all the
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translations for some of the lot
of the jargon acronyms we have
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You didn't takes us on to
question 14.
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How are you conducting
competitor research these days?
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If you are any tools, you're
using the you like to help with
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this task before we get to that
dream response.
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Google Keyword Planner is pretty
solid.
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Talking to customers is the best
tool to do, keyword research.
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I love that idea.
Angela goes, if you're looking
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for negative, keywords are chat
recap.
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Our Korea is also worth a look.
So career at Korea.
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Always?
Yeah.
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Has a negative keywords tool in
there.
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Lawrence Chase response.
Question for saying, yes,
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talking with our, your Brand's
to find who they believe their
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top competitors are using the
auction inside to is also
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eye-opening in many cases
outside tools like spyfu work
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pretty well.
Also to provide some information
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and he could make sure he writes
continue to make sure we go to
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his next answer going.
Yeah, the other thing is, most
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social platforms have always of
see seeing other brands ads, you
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can just check what your
competition is running by using
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this different tools directly.
I believe several folks have
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shared links to them in various
platforms.
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And from Dwayne Brown, we have
most competitive.
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Research is a waste of time for
most brands who controversial
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brand spend way too much time
worrying.
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What competitors are doing
versus spending time on ad copy
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cro product improvements and
supporting their customers,
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unless you plan to copy a
competitors Point of view and
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then he continues.
Why are you going to spend all
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that time focused on them your
brand and Northstar should be
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leading the way.
What makes you different and why
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are you in business?
Not what your competitors are
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doing?
Can he did?
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You respond saying search for
another thing that still gets me
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to this day is terrible, landing
page speeds, getting our
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squawking, you do to bring down
your cbc's.
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When the mobile site speed score
is poor, it's like having
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weights on your ankles and
Asking for advice on how to run
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faster site speed is something
that can help a ton for sure,
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though.
A lot of Brands don't realize it
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or think about it and it answers
a question for John goes besides
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your traditional spyfu and some
rush.
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I've found the following pretty
useful moat.com for Mo att.com
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forward, slash Advertiser and
crafts dot.
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Cos rcra ft.com statista so that
T is t a.com to ensure that my
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findings align with industry
studies and we have Ashton clock
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responding to question forcing.
I like to review the auction
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inside subs and AD copy and
landing pages for search
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campaigns for social using some
of the platforms.
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New, add transparency, tools are
really helpful to see exactly
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what ads messaging Etc, that
competitors are using And then
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Julie goes.
I always start by asking who
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they think competitors are.
Not an honest question for she
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continues.
Then I do some searches and see
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what I see review.
Google ads auction insights
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available.
Look at Facebook ads, Library,
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visit competitor sites to see
remarketing, sign up for comp
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newsletters, Google Alerts.
Just just reminds me of Yasmin
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Williams talk at my first PBC
live.
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You Cave and way she talked
about contextualizing and
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third-party data.
And yeah, doing things like
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newsletter, Google Alerts.
That is about contextualizing
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third-party data, and she
continues yell for the platforms
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where you can essentially Target
those who like, or I interested
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in competitors play around with
setting up some audiences and
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see what you see with regard to
size.
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Estimated cost Etc.
Oh, and she's not done.
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She then continued saying this
is slightly not exactly the
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answer.
This question but you can get
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audience data by putting
platform pixels on your side
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even if you don't use them for
actual advertising for or don't
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yet prove your audience is there
this way.
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And then we have John King and
responding to question, forcing
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always doing it.
But with more pmax it gets trick
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like trickier.
I like splitting it up between
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similarweb spyfu and semrush and
really takes us on to question
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five, which I believe is the
last question.
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Saying, what is your biggest
challenge with PPC planning or
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research right now?
Let's see if we can help each
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other for me.
I think the biggest challenge is
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the fact of the past three years
has just been so uncertain.
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How do we Benchmark?
How do we set expectations with
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clients, you know, in terms of
like yeah, what we're
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forecasting.
It's very unlikely.
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We're going to reach it.
So be careful things like that.
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So yeah.
There's there's all to be said
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about certain Shins in times
like this and the fact that the
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past couple years were just who
have Hazard, who can really
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guess what's going to happen
next year.
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And then actor has a whole bunch
of tools for us apart from the
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ones that we said summer spyfu.
There's also sparked her oh I
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love that.
Actor has mentioned sparked or
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og2 cap Tara crunchbase Google
News Google Alerts similar web
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product hunt meet Apollo meta
ads, Library read groups, Zoom
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info, Fowler ink and many more.
I can just go on and on and on
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with the tools he is good with
the tools that definitely Judy
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goes.
I forgot Spark Ha.
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Oh, ha ha ha.
It has some really interesting
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information.
You don't really find elsewhere
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but suit was Suma is pretty cool
tool for social to.
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I love that chat about sparked
her ex a response.
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Same talking about social, you
will find a big realm of
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competitor analysis, tools,
depends on what you are looking
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for and you can dig into almost
anything if you're doing abms
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and contact marketing for hi.
Gets must.
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Try Crystal knows me handle.
It's an insane stuff.
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And then we have doing Brown
responded to question fighting
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as the last two and a half years
taught us.
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Don't plan too far out and keep
an eye on the prize.
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The biggest issue continues to
be uncertainty with what the
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future holds and thing was from
responded to that.
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Yes and dice gesture is just
goes, nodding yep.
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Yep.
Yep.
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Yeah we don't know what the
future holds don't plot time to
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Go ahead, John, King and
response to question five
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saying, planning for efforts
that don't have tree inside
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capabilities.
Our EP Max that and random
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outages and an active response
to question fighting, I'm
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focusing heavily on new client
acquisition for my business.
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I am getting accounts that are
messed up by earlier agency
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agencies, consultants, and media
buyers for me creating ways to
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figure out the mess ups, and
start fixing the mess ups.
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ASAP to bring in the results.
Fraser, His response to question
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14.
I think it's handy to look at
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the competitor research as a
mixed typically, I'll rely on
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spyfu auction insights but
normally try to reach out to why
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the teams to see what info, they
may have Julie response question
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fighting planning, when there is
so much uncertainty, both with
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economic conditions and with the
whims of the ad platforms.
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Now, more than ever, we need to
be flexible and teach our
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clients and stakeholders.
That things can change.
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Quickly, Fraser response to
question 3 saying love to read
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more on this jumping between
semrush and Keyword Planner but
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from a trance perspective,
finding Tick Tock really
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interesting.
Ashton clock response question.
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Five cent accounting for Clues
variance in planning for such
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campaigns.
Has been kind of a headache
482
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,200
constantly questioning how much
segmentation is too much too
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little will certain keywords be
viewed as the same excetera and
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And then having to explain all
of the nuances to clients and
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active response to another
question.
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Give another answer.
Question 5 saying the challenge
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is to do deep order to find the
issues behind the bad
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performance and test, how to
align product offers and
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advertising budgets in any
market for any industry and
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bring in the results, like
something that can work at a
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macro level for everything.
And yeah on that.
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Fantastic note from actor, we
come to the end of our chart.
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Yeah, Julie gives a few tweets
and thank you for joining today.
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Look out for the recap post.
There's also going to be a
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Twitter spaces chat about this
September 29th at 5 p.m. at
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which point of your the cusp of
my second run starting.
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So, unfortunately, I won't be
making bad for ya because mine
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is going to be in person.
I'm not going to tell you to
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choose.
Yeah, please join us.
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Especially if you're knowing
blundered if you're in London
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00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,900
come to my event if you know in
London.
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Yes, join the Twitter spaces
chat.
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00:28:40,900 --> 00:28:42,700
So yeah.
I hope you've taken some great
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takeaways from today's chat and
you know taking solace in the
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difficulties that you may be
finding in planning for 2023.
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00:28:52,300 --> 00:28:57,000
Have you started or are you more
focused on Q full and how that's
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00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,800
going to go and what the
uncertainties of that would be
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00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,500
hanging there.
We're gonna get through this
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together.
Yeah, if you have any feedback
510
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,400
about the podcast or maybe even
some correction and anything
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00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,300
that has been shed to get in,
touch with me on Twitter, my
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DM's are open on the handle the
marketing, a new or on LinkedIn.
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00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,800
We have the PBC chat Roundup
podcast group there and we'd
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00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,200
love for you to join to share
your thoughts.
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00:29:21,500 --> 00:29:24,100
It would also be great many
long-standing members or anyone
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00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:27,800
who's listening to this podcast
for over 30 seconds to leave a
517
00:29:27,808 --> 00:29:31,100
rating or review.
You can do that on Spotify or
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apple.
Just go to link tree.com /P b c
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00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:40,600
chat on the score round up.
That's link2sd re e.com.
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/P P c-- chat on the school
Roundup.
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Yeah I guess by the time you're
listening to this like ticket
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sales will close at the point as
I would last I was checking 120.
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Tickets has been sold for PPC
live UK so if you were one of
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them, thank you very much, see
you on Thursday.
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If you have any darts for
dietary requirements, please do
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let me know.
Please bring food to ID on the
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day.
Everyone is going to need for to
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idea, to give in to kiss
security.
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Because this is a yeah, a
fantastic building, a fantastic
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set up.
Security is needed for the
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tallest building in London,
right?
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You know, not surprising there.
Anyway, finally remember for
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your campaigns and businesses to
Glide smoothly, there's a lot of
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00:30:26,500 --> 00:30:30,100
hard work needed beneath the
surface say, keep his one songs
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kicking by and speak to you next
week.